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September 25, 2020

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September 25, 2020

Did I mention I've ordered a new Kia E-Niro, in 4+ spec, which for those who don't know, is a fully electric car with a real world range of 250 plus miles. I ordered it in mid August & have been told today to expect delivery in MARCH !! I knew there was a lengthy "lead" time, but 7 months ! I don't mind the wait "If it's worth waiting for.." etc), but am concerned there might be a big price increase, which I deffo don't want. I also want a wall box charger installed but cannot order that  (& get the Government grant) until I have the chassis number, which I can't get until the car is produced ; problems, problems ! So, there's a possibility I might just cancel if any price jump is unacceptable to me - my deposit is fully refundable (they say) until the car arrives on the dealerships forecourt, but I'm just hoping all goes as originally planned. John(JKW)

September 26, 2020

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September 26, 2020

Hang in there, the Kia Niro is one of THE best all electric cars within a reasonable price range. It also has one of the best ‘real world’ ranges. I was considering one myself (also the top spec) but decided to wait ‘one more car’ before changing to all electric. I have just bought a new BMW X3 M40i. We have had 4 Kias. A top spec Sportage and 3 Picantos which V drives and we use for town work. Her latest model is the GT and comes with satnav, heated seats and sreeing wheel, keyless entry etc etc. I really rate Kias. Fingers crossed it all works out there is a huge demand for them.

September 27, 2020

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September 27, 2020

Sorry guys your wasting your pensions on electric cars etc ,I’d sooner spend my pension on holidays in my golden years. Yes we have 3 cars one is 21 years old,one is 14 years old and our main car is a Hyundai i20 which we’ve had 2 over the years this on is 3 years old. Why ? living in rural Ireland and our nearest family member is 400 miles and a ferry ride away so charging an electric car is a no no . John you have a good motor KIA ,7 years guaranteed etc ,but I’m looking at the Hyundai Kona hybrid reasonable price €26k here ,thus allowing us to spend in Goa etc .

September 27, 2020

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September 27, 2020

I think it’s more personal choice than waste Bob! We each have different priorities in life, different ideas on things etc etc. I MOT’d my Mercedes this year, that’s the first time in over 30 years I have MOT’d a car! I usually buy new and sell at the 3 year point. Now, financially that could be construed as a bit of a waste but both V and I like to drive new cars, we can afford to do so, no expensive HP, we always drive a hard bargain and it’s just what we choose to do. Just bought another one! Electric cars ARE the way forward and once the charging infrastructure is expanded they WILL slowly become the only private car option on offer. Ps the Hyundai Kona Hybrid is virtually the Kia Sportage Hybrid isn’t it?   Apropos holidays, you clearly love Goa and that’s fine. I personally would find it boring to go back year after year to the  same destination but each to his own. 3 years, ago sat in a busy airport, having risen at some ungodly hour to drive an hour an a half to Manchester airport, park up, lug cases to the check in etc etc I started to question our lifestyle of 4 holidays every year, 2 short haul, 2 longhaul. The whole travel ethos really started to pee me off. The plane journey, 13 hours to Koi Samur, same to Singapore, 8 hours to the US, Barbados, and the like, all those hours in that freaking cigar tube, even with extra leg room, premium plus etc etc an uncomfortable experience......for me at any rate. We decided to change. We invested £100,000 in a really modern, top of the range 42’x14’ static caravan with surround decking, a 3 car carport and every luxury we need. Now that is a lot of holidays and the weather here on the East Yorkshire Coast is often unpredictable OR more correctly predictably ‘fresh’ much of the  time. But  there again I am no fan of very hot weather! We spend 8 months of the year here, clean sea air, cliff top location, miles of beach with hardly a soul on it away from the nearby small  tourist town facilities . We love it. Others wouldn’t, like I said each to his own. Stay safe. D.

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September 27, 2020

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September 27, 2020

Disagree Bob ! Done every type of holiday ever interested in, from Vegas ( 8 times), coast to coast USA, Canada twice including self drive across the Rockies (hairy in March !), an ocean cruise (a disaster !), have seen California top to toe, villa hols in Spain, Portugal, Corfu & Cyprus, a river cruise down the Rhine & Moselle (fantastic), etc, etc  and are now at the stage of not wanting the hassle of airports EVER again. There's loads of great places to visit in the UK, & for that I need (want ) a decent car. With regards being electric, there's no driving journey I'd undertake these days further than 250 miles one way without an overnight stop, so "range anxiety" ain't a problem. I watched yet another You Tube video last night of the E Niro, making me convinced I'm doing the right thing - there's now no way I'll be cancelling !  David, a great choice for your "next to an electric car ", have had 3 BMW's myself in the past ( the best a 7 Series, loved it, although 22 mpg was a no-no once I retired !), so keep safe & happy motoring ! John (JKW)

September 28, 2020

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September 28, 2020

John talking of holidays mmmmmm,let see been round the world west through the USA ,Hawaii ,New Zealand ,Australia then Singapore. Driven round Europe in motor home Germany,Poland old Yugoslavia ,Italy Switzerland,France ,Spain and Portugal,4 times over the years .Kenya 3 times ,Greece islands twice. The USA ,east coast from Massachusetts to Florida via New York ,Washington and Gettysburg. Disney Florida 6 visits including Texas . West coast Sanfransico to SAN Diago . Then east to Vargas ,Grand Canyon down to DeadWood via Tucson ( move over Wyat Earp ) Finally Las Vegas 7 times with the grandkids oh and Route 66 . You’ll notice I haven’t said about my favourite holidays in Goa been going there for the last 15 years for 6 weeks or more ,would have been there this coming winter (JanMar) but for Covid . Yes in the last 15 years we’ve had 3 brand new motors but only medium Hyundai i20 which are nice comfortable motor not costing the earth. My son he’s in Frankfurt and has a Audi A1 car for his boys and VW. Passat for his wife and BMW X5 company car himself. Finally we might replace the Punto in a couple of years with a Kona Hybrid.

September 28, 2020

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September 28, 2020

You are a veritable world traveller Bob! I think that much travel is a waste personally. All that time in airports, all that time flying, queuing, the travel to the airport, the travel from the destination airport to the hotel etc etc. Get in a decent car and tour the composite countries of the UK there are some wonderful sights to see, sites to visit. ps not expecting a response lol.

September 28, 2020

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September 28, 2020

David, Totally agree re airports & long distance flying, hence my avowed intent to "never again" - flying, with it's "baggage" ( queuing, crap airline food, cramped conditions and very few direct flights nowadays), is no longer a pleasure, especially with the delays seemingly always experienced these days. Covid -19 hasn't helped of course, but I would never consider going to somewhere like Goa - my sister has been a few times, but apart from the weather & beaches ( we're not sun worshippers anyway), I cannot see the attraction of sub standard accommodation & hygiene standards which I've heard about. Cheap, yes, but at what cost ? No, from now on, it's UK hols for us, a decent car to travel in, and fingers crossed for the weather ! John (JKW)

September 28, 2020

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September 28, 2020

Come on guys ,yes the travel time in airports is a pain but 12 weeks on the beach is much better than scraping ice off your car or having to wear a heavy coat if you want to go shopping etc . Ref our round the world trip ,swimming the Barrier reef or climbing Uluru ( Ayers Rock) ,visiting Pearl Harbour and Waikiki beach mmmm beats going to Asda any day . Even going up and down the Nile and visiting Luxor and valley of the kings ,but it’s a choice we made .

September 29, 2020

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September 29, 2020

Bob, I get it completely that you have a different view on this to me but what I am trying to say is we are done with world travel. 12 weeks on a beach anywhere ( certainly not Goa) would be a total anathema to me, a nightmare! 2 weeks is too much.Do I like swimming/ snorkelling  in warm, crystal clear water? Absolutely, for a a few days. Is it worth the travel hassle to me today? No! We have done America more times than I can count, my whole family live there and have done so  since 1963 when I joined JLR. I have ‘done’ the northern AND southern African countries along with Aruba, Barbados, Jamaica, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia the European countries, etc etc etc. Done them, don’t need to go back. We did consider Australia a couple of years ago but the flying time is just silly, in my opinion. Years ago when we were younger and I ( not V) was a ‘drinker’ I did enjoy an ice cold beer ( or three) at the beach bar but nowadays I have other priorities in life, a different perspective on life and simply can’t be arsed to go through the whole ‘travel to travel’ nightmare any more. You and your wife clearly do still enjoy that lifestyle and all credit to you both, we no longer do. D.

September 29, 2020

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September 29, 2020

Ditto David - 12 weeks on the beach, jeez, I'd rather the snow, ice and heavy coats for a few weeks any day, but hey, we're all different & that's what makes the world go round. John (JKW)

October 3, 2020

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October 3, 2020

Phew!....WOW.. Beats our Skoda Fabia into a cocked hat. Mick lol.

October 4, 2020

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October 4, 2020

Mick the Skoda Fabia is a great car. There is a lot of snobbishness and one ‘upmanship’ rubbish associated with cars. I love cars full stop. Do you remember my yellow Matra Simca Bagheera in Osnabrueck? I was Accounts CPL/SGT at the time and the Pmr was worried about me driving such a fancy sports car and what folk would think because of my job. V managed to collide with a dustbin rolling across the road from the pads quarters and took the entire side off, it had glass fibre bodywork! Some mean folk thought it was funny! I had a shiny new blue Opel Manta sports car in Herford AND a new Peugeot 504. In Sennelager I bought a new Audi 100, an Opel Rekord and a Renault 25 GTS to take to Tidworth. I almost always buy new cars, I rarely keep them beyond 3 years, it’s just a ( very expensive) hobby of mine. Since I left the army in 93 I have owned: Ford Sierra Cosworth. ( brought tax free from BAOR) Mercedes 190E. ( superb car, it had full Mercedes skirts and lowered suspension,  cost me 2 speeding fines. I sold it when I realised I was getting too old to be driving a boy racer vehicle) 2x Mercedes C class 220. ( comfy but slow. Floaty around tight bends and a big difference in driving style to the 190E. With hindsight TOO big a difference). Saab 95. ( Swedish engineering at its best) Peugeot 407, 3008 ( bought at a time I had a big company car, indifferent build quality but lots of luggage space). Jeep Grand Cherokee x2 ( the first one was a demo, really good to drive and surprising fuel economical, 18 mpg if driven carefully lol. Really superb off roaders except we never went off road) Kia Sportage ( top of the range and an excellent car, I bought it at a hugely discounted price, drove it 2 years and part exchanged it for the Beamer below at a total loss of £500! Truly!) BMW X5 M3 Sports ( great car, doesn’t fit in most car parking spaces though. Haggling over the price I was offered £2k discount which I refused but keep in mind the great price I got for my Kia. Long story short, they asked if I would consider finance. £5k finance discount! No fees for early repayment. Jumped at it, paid the balance off after 2 months!  I asked for similar when I bought the X3 below but BMW has stopped doing in house finance, how surprising is that lol) Mercedes GLC AMG 43 ( because of lockdown I kept this car 3 years and 4 months and had to MOT it lol. The AMG engine is spectacular, 0-62 in just over 4 seconds, governed top speed of 155 mph, very thirsty but an outstanding drive) BMW X3 M40i ( recently purchased. Same size engine and performance as the AMG above, bought it via Car Wow, on t’internet, from a local dealer with a big discount. So far I am delighted with it, time will tell).   In between I also had 6 company cars whilst in the NHS which negated the need for a second car. Since I retired in 2007 and lost the company cars Veronika has had 4 Kia Picantos and drives the GT model now. I am definitely going all electric next. I am hoping that within the next 3 years the Kia Sportage electric vehicle ( almost definitely THE best buy currently for price, range, warranty and build quality) will have been emulated/ even more improved across the electric range, giving more choice. So that’s my car ownership synopsis. I am fully aware that I have lost a lot of money over the decades buying cars but I care not a fig. Anyone else want to share their car ownership history?              

October 4, 2020

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October 4, 2020

12M Ford Taunus ,Detmold/Chester,VW Fastback Munster/Herford,Renault 4 Herford/ Netheravon,Ford Cortina Estate Netheran/Osnabruck, Mazda 929 Coupe Osnabruck/Warminster,Mazda 323 Warminster/ Hohne, Hillman Hunter Estate Hohne /Preston, Vauxhall Victor Estate Preston, Austin Princess Motorhome Preston, Volvo 245 Estate Preston/ Hohne, Volvo 345 Hohne/Preston.Austen Alegro Preston/Rochdale,Austin Metro Rochdale,Skoda 105e Rochdale,Honda Motorhome Rochdale,Bedford Motorhome ,Fiat Uno Rochdale,Rover 213 Rover 440 Rover 800 Rochdale CZ 125 motorbike Rochdale,Renault Kangoo Rochdale/Tipperary,Hyundai i20 diesel Tipperary,Hyundai i20 petrol Tipperary and finally a Fiat Grand Punto Tipperary,from 1977 Warminster we had a Sprite Alpine caravan and Marsden  caravan . So over the years we’ve spent a lot on transportation,with the motor homes/caravans we visited Spain 4 times , France 5 times ,Czechoslovakia,Poland,East Germany, Hungary,Slovenia and  Yugoslavia before the wall came down,not mention Scotland 3 times . Yes cars are okay but sitting in a car travelling across Europe driving on the wrong side of the road can be a pain ,and I’m still wanted for speeding in Hungary 2005 . Now we let the airplane take the strain and guaranteed sunshine away from all this cold weather in Ireland/UK ,Goa Florida Arizona here we come .

October 4, 2020

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October 4, 2020

1st car of my own ;  In Chester, Ford Prefect, cost £50 & used more oil than petrol. 2nd, VW Beetle, thoroughly reliable, air cooled so  heater burnt the hair on the legs, 3rd, Osnabruck, Ford Taunus bought  from Butch Hampson, 4th, Lulworth & Catterick, Ford Granada 3litre Auto GXL ( monthly "treat" doing a ton down the A1 having topped up at Asda), sold to a P&D in Senne who crashed it through the NAAFI fence ! It was a powerful beast ! Sennelager, Audi 80 GLS, (Ford Escort whilst awaiting delivery), 2nd car another  VW Beetle (6 volt  & luminous green), & on demob, UK, changed the Audi (after 14 years) for a Mercedes 190e 2Litre Auto (kept for 11 years) & utterly reliable, also looked the part with rear spoiler & racy alloys, 2nd car a  a Peugeot 205,  a Honda motor bike to commute to HMP Liverpool ( no toll fees for the Mersey Tunnel !), sold for a BMW 3 Series 'cos the  cold weather eventually got to me on the 'bike, exchanged that for a BMW 7 Series Auto ( more "toys" than Toys R Us !) which I loved for 3 years but on retiring decided 22mpg  was unsustainable ! Sold both the 7 Series & Mercedes (sob, sob) on retirement & bought a Honda Civic Sport Auto. Moved to our new home here in the Staffordshire Moorlands ( Civic was ideal for shifting stuff), but missed the BMW !  Next another 3 Series Bee Em, 2litre Auto (rear spoiler & 18" alloys), a great car but road tax became too expensive @ £250, whereas my next car was a Honda Insight ( Hybrid, £10 road tax), cheap plasticky interior but reliable UNTIL gearbox problem - 2 months out of warranty, but Honda said £10k to fix ( ten thousand!!). Despite being fully serviced only by Honda, they insisted only a goodwill gesture of £6500 would be granted, but I persevered over 3 months & eventually they conceded it was a manufacturing fault and paid me the full whack back. On collecting the car (c/w new gearbox) I drove straight to a Skoda dealership & ordered a new Octavia - a brilliant car, changed after almost 3 years for another Octavia ( both automatics), and after 2 more years opted for a Skoda Karoq Auto, again a brill car but have decided to go full electric. Unfortunately there's a huge lead time, 7 months, so cannot get the Kia E Niro until March. I love cars, really do look after them too, cleaning / polishing is an obsession with me, and touch wood, have never had any speeding fines (although do have two detectors & dash cam fitted !).  John (JKW)

October 7, 2020

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October 7, 2020

OK. Heres my "tuppence" worth...... Germany, Mini clubman.. (ok), Morris Marina (HARVEST GOLD...we called it the "flying shite"). I'd had of enough "British" cars by then,  so, bought our first Audi (second hand from an ex squaddie "bomb site" dealer in Sennelager) .....we then we moved to UK with our 2nd Audi (Brand new Tax free),  then we had  VW Beetle's, ( Tidworth to "Bovvy"   commuting thereof ) qty 2. A VW Estate + a POLO - Mary was driving by then. - the Estate not the Polo - When we both retired we bought our first Skoda....we are now on our 3rd (All Fabia's) as you say David "A great car".  Keep safe "you lot". Mick.  


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