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February 13, 2017

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February 13, 2017

Words absolutely fail me ! If true, the Russians, the North Koreans, Iran and every terrorist in the world would rub their hands with glee - what a bloody farce, shame on whoever thought this up. John (JKW)

February 13, 2017

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February 13, 2017

The army numbers just over 76000 at present, the smallest peace time standing army since before the Napoleonic Wars and almost 4000 below the agreed Government figures. Recruiting has stagnated in the wake of the IHAT and PSNI witch hunts of servicemen and women, the absence of active service tours and the general disdain with which the forces have been treated. This latest edict just caps it all really.

February 14, 2017

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February 14, 2017

I was going make glib comments about David's post ,then again I bit my tongue and thought this can't be happening but if the powers to be are only interested in saving cash and with all the areas of trouble so far from the shores of the UK and not likely to involve the U.K.  Hasn't history taught our politicians anything about keeping a decent sized standing armed forces all you have to do is go back to the 80's and the Falklands and how unprepared we were then . Yep we are throwing the baby out with the bath water,thinking just we have the nukes no one will attack/ inter fear with British interests ,mind you they could be day off . Then again if we have high unemployment could we see National Service be instituted ,you know Monday to Wednesday or Thursday till Sunday it's your choice

February 14, 2017

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February 14, 2017

I love glib comments Bob, please glib away. The MOD also announced today they have rescinded their legal obligation of 'duty of care' to servicemen and women. In effect this removes the rights of servicemen and women and their relatives to sue the Government for sending them or their kin into battle with inadequate or faulty equipment, a la Blair and Brown, snatch land rovers in place of armoured troop carriers etc. The SofS Defence stated the move was to prevent forces personnel and their families being tied up in lengthy court cases when things go wrong, apparently the new system will be led by some appointed civilian firm who will facilitate far speedier outcomes. Well we all know what happens when civilian firms take over things. Er...........the lengthy court cases and procrastination apropos settlements were caused by the MOD so why didn't they just make the whole thing easier and less burocratic? I am no fan at all of this claims and compensation society we have become but I can't understand why the MOD doesn't see that the steady erosion of military terms and conditions, the lack of any duty of care, the failure to protect the forces from witch hunts etc all combine to make the armed forces a last resort career for many. Add in the latest stories that several barracks have been without heating or hot water for months on end, as there are no funds for new boilers and service folk have had to purchase heaters to keep warm, and the picture becomes very bleak.

February 15, 2017

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February 15, 2017

You could only make this up if we were in loonyland, but there again, perhaps the entire ruling bodies in UK have used their brain cell (communal to all politicians, but ONLY one) . This is all the work of the public school educated loons, since all they can think of, using their one and only communal brain cell, is how empty is that funny thing on their shoulders.... They should switch off their one brain cell and go back to the lunatic asylum they all escaped from before it gets lost. Reason cannot work with them, since one brain cell between them all falls asleep after 0.00001 percent of a millisecond because of stress....... The Armed Forces of this country should NOT be debased by such stupid ideas from our leaders (???) The Military have served this country superbly for centuries, until this loony lot thought up this suicidal idea. Roll on the revolution.... And I wonder which back door into UK these loons have opened and thrown away the only key!

February 15, 2017

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February 15, 2017

Good to read your views again Tom, missed you for a while, hope all is well mate.  It seems every day the MOD comes out with something even more ridiculous. Yesterday in the DT Corbyn was bring criticised by the Tories for telling some left wing, nerds anonymous, group that he was in favour of doing away with the army altogether! The Tories seem to be doing exactly that by stealth. N.Korea have just launched another nuclear weapon and publicly declared a nuclear strike would  be a FIRST response to any aggressive act against it  just as 'Kim I AM' was having his half brother murdered in Malaysia. Concurrent to that, our entire nuclear sub deterrent is inoperational and everyone somehow knows that. The RN is begging ex mariners, up to the age of 60, yes 60, according to the media, to re-enlist on a 5 year contract to staff the new carriers as they are so desperately short of trained personnel. Meanwhile, despite TM's assertions to the Trumpster that we were paying 2per cent of GDP to defence as per the agreement , it turns out we aren't!  But there stein nor are most of the other European NATO partners. What I can't understand is, the  decimation of a once globally respected armed forces seems to be happening exponentially at the same pace as the global dangers those forces were meant to protect us from,  increases.

February 15, 2017

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February 15, 2017

Thanks for compliment on my "glib" comments David ,this really is something out a science fiction story when you analyse the happenings of the last 6/7 years of Tory rule. We had the Harrier farce for our then force of aircraft carriers ,comments like we have a battle proven aircraft that can land on a sixpence let's sell them off but their replacement will not be available for 4/5 years ( now what good is an aircraft carrier without planes ???) Then let's build the biggest aircraft carriers the Royal Navy have ever had ( but no planes for 4/5 years ) duh ???. Oh I know let's not have Challenger tanks in a quantity ( too expensive to build and equip) that they could defend our island,instead let's have these well trained regiments drive a truck ( for a better word ) oh and reduce the size of said regiments by half . Then let's prosecute any soldier/ marine /sailor for "so called crimes" when employed defending said country ( by order of said politicians) BUT let terrorists off scot free when ( Hyde park bombing) as we want to be magnanimous to the terrorists now turned politicians mmmmmduh ,then pay lawyers millions  for prosecution of said "crimes" . Tom posted they have " one " brain cell sorry Tom your being tooooo extravagant( more likely an empty space) the writing is on the feckin wall ,all they seem to be interested in is the "after dinner speech circuit or how to screw up and get loads of dosh . This imaginary 2% being spent on defence ,from what as a layman I see is on being spent on "White Elephants " ,ships with no crews ,carriers with no planes,armoured regiments with no tanks ,and best of all nuclear submarines with missiles that don't work ( as the latest test proved) ..... we on this planet as I see have a guy in Russia who thinks he's a Zar ,a religion that wants to wipe all non- believers out and another guy in North Korea has the belief he's the second coming. Then we have our biggest English speaking  Allie  just voting a nut into the White House ,yep folks life looking very rosey ,now where can I put a spanner into next ,oh I know a part army,navy and sell Vauxhall to the French . Couldn't it be so easygoing we could then pay the said defenders of said country when we "Fuck up " and let them have No Recall of lack of care ,now that should do IT

February 26, 2017

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February 26, 2017

it is not in our remit to sell Vauxhall to the French Bob that is the European arm of general motors/opel, and one must remember that in UK we may have some of the best car builders in the world but they are working for foreign owned car firms. When you next drive along a motorway I defy any of our site readers to spot a British car built and owned by this country, after the last of the rovers of ten years ago. I am of course talking of production line cars, all the  car plants in the country are owned by other countries, even our marque vehicles, ie, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Jaguar, Rover , Aston Martin, by Germany, India, China, Russia.

February 26, 2017

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February 26, 2017

Talking of the Army strength, I am sure I read that when the standing figures are below 80,000 it is no longer an Army but a defence force, as to our Navy, in  terms of ships and personnel we are so undermanned it is almost a treasonable offence that the political liars we have in this so called parliament have allowed to happen. Once the largest and most powerful Navy in the world it is now naught but a faded shadow, it is true that they are trying to induce older and previous sailors back into the Navy as stated there is a total lack of experience of the required standard. I noticed in the news quite recently there is an island in the Indian ocean coming on the market for the princely sum of £175,000, I am starting to seriously consider it. signing off gents, Captain Morgan is shouting dont forget the slice of Lemon as you bring in the diet coke.  


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