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Food for thought ???
November 21, 2016

Joined: May 8, 2014
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Food for thought ???

November 21, 2016

In the Rant section is one those rants that need a less heated discussion ,what is it ,well the state of our Armed Services . Yes they / we have always fought above our weight ,from the fuzzy wuzzies to the Falklands , OK with Hitler we needed the USA ,but the Brits have on the whole been capable of looking after itself . What has changed ,just look back a few years ,after WW2 we had National Service up to the early 60's ,then we had young men and woman joining up as their parents had ,mostly to get away for an adventure abroad. Yes abroad consider the 60's British military bases all over the world and those horrible Ruskies would not give back Eastern Europe to its people ,also making threatening noises about Cuba ,Hungery ,Poland etc. Now come forward 50 odd years , BAOR closed like all the bases east of Suez ,even got got our arses kicked out of Lybia , we have new technologies that cost a fortune ,subs/aircraft carriers / panzers / fighter aircraft you name it ,it costs a package thro the inefficiency of the MOD purchasing departments . Politicians think because the cost of equipment and type of equipment that have done their duty and spent the money right. Wrong ,why ?? ,you and I know that no matter what if you don't have the manpower to operate this wonder weapon or boots on the ground it's useless . Just think of Cressy or Agincourt ,what beat the French knights etc was the Welsh Bowmen with the longbow ,OK it was close but we had the numbers there to use that weapon effectively . The spend of GDP of 2%  needs to be increased to employ more ground/naval/ airforce personnel be an effective defence of the U.K. Why well we all know what happens to the losers of warfare and today is just unsettled as the past with mini wars all over the globe , there is a problem though ,we need monies spent on all those departments like the NHS,Welfare oh and the trains from the north to London or a third runway or MP's expenses . Now I've put the ball in your court to mull this conundrum over .

November 21, 2016

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 683
Food for thought ???

November 21, 2016

Not wishing to nitpick Bob, but we have a small handful of subs, no aircraft carriers, a navy that is so depleted it cannot defend our coastline let alone our territorial waters, we have a couple of hundred panzers that allegedly cannot pierce the armour of the latest Russian ones, a hundred or so fighter aircraft  and that's about it really. The MOD seems to place its reliance on technology and "wonder weapons" like the new build carrier under construction when answering criticisms of our depleted defence capability. Sadly, we have neither, not enough of the big hit weapons or technology and not enough boots on the ground to hold ground even if we could take it. I don't get heated about it because recent events in my life have given me a different set of priorities, I am just saddened and resigned  to it I guess. Hope you are well and enjoying life, you always sounds as if you are lol.

November 21, 2016

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 199
Food for thought ???

November 21, 2016

just a quickie;   you are 12 years old, your hormones are running riot,when in class at school, the lesson is history, outside the sun is shining the teacher is droning on about Agincourt, looking out the window you can see the girls playing netball, and another class playing 5 a side. It would have been a more interesting lesson if he had said the following, due to delays in taking Harfleur and the forced march along the river etc, the majority of Henry 5ths  army had a form of dysentery. Travelling light so to speak in the clothes that you stood up in Henry positioned his archers in trenches on the rising ground. Do not leave the trench today or all will be lost, the archers therefore made a ledge in the wall of the trench, remember DYSENTRY, The archers took off their pants /leggings and placed them on the ledge. The battle commenced, the English were victorious. the battle was fought by archers with no pants/leggings on naked from the waist down. Now that is an interesting, funny but true history lesson. An aside, it was after this battle that any archer captured by the French had his middle and forefingers cut off so he could no longer draw the bow, all other archers then showed the French the V sign meaning I still have my fingers, corrupted through time into eff off.


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