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Have the Scots backed off Independance ???
May 6, 2016

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Have the Scots backed off Independance ???

May 6, 2016

Now the results are in ,yes Scottish Labour got their ass kicked ,surprise surprise the Tories did well but the shock is Nicola's SNP didn't get its overall majority .Question have the Scots decided that they had the Independance referendum and all the promise Alec Salmond said would be were a load of crap ( typical politician ) so they are better off together in Union , I know Nicola will still be able to get preference for the Scots ( and why not that's her job) from Westminster , now the next test is 23rd June ,more on that to come from you ....????

May 6, 2016

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Have the Scots backed off Independance ???

May 6, 2016

Wee Nicola Sturgeon certainly hasn't backed off her Independence "dream", in fact I reckon she'd hold another referendum tomorrow if she could ! Today's result (not getting an overall majority) means she just might find it more difficult in getting her way in the Scottish Parliament - the Tories up there are now the official Opposition, led by a decent leader in Ruth Davidson (I'm assured by Wee Frankie), so unlike down here in England where we don't have such a "luxury", a decent Opposition will be good for politics North of the Border. John (JKW)

May 7, 2016

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Have the Scots backed off Independance ???

May 7, 2016

I also believe Ms Sturgeon resolutely clings to the belief she can effect a second Independence referendum. Like her predecessor Fat Alec she dreams of entering the history books as the person who gained Scotland's freedom from the despised English. She is canny, no doubt about that. She realizes now is not the opportune moment to seek independence, oil prices at rock bottom Salmond's economic forecast pre Independence referendum now exposed as the lie it was,, taxation increases necessary to balance the books, Scotland's continued reliance on extra income per capita from the Westminster Treasury coffersrs just to balance the books, an uncertain EU if the UK leaves and the SNP's "bete noir", one Donald Trump Esq, with a half way chance of becoming President of the USA. If the latter happens nothing much else will be of importance for a while methinks!!  Anyway, I believe the resurgence of the Tories in Scotland is partly to do with the efforts of the quite excellent Ruth Davies but is also attributable, as Ms Davies herself said, to the concerns many Scots have about the SNP and their vainglorious quest for independence. The matter hasn't gone away and never will while the SNP are in power, Sturgeon keeps the matter alive with ad hoc references and veiled threats from time to time all part of her cunning plan to strike when she thinks she has the best chance of success. Her "this referendum will only happen once in a life time" statement prior to the start of the last one was merely a ruse to try and prompt more people to vote FOR independence. Like most things she says there was only a modicum of truth in that statement. Wait out for the flak post the EU referendum!!

May 7, 2016

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Have the Scots backed off Independance ???

May 7, 2016

Ms Sturgeon will cling on to her desire for independence as long as she can, and as long as her Scottish supporters stay on her side. The opposition parties in Scotland should now be thinking how much they will have to pay to successfully protect their southern border. NOT to stop England invading, but to pay for the building of a border protection agency which could successfully build a wall from 100 miles into the Atlantic, then across the present border on dry land, and a further 100 miles into the North Sea, just to stop people in Scotland rushing south into Engand, to evade the thought of single nationhood.  Ms Sturgeon needs to consider all this very carefully, she is blinding herself at present, since an independent Scotland woud have to find an awful lot of cash (where from??) to pay for her independence and all the reorganisation which would follow for her and those in the north. Independence is a wonderful thing, but only if a country has friends on all sides of her new border. If Scotland were to leave, where would she get the finance to pay for all this  new security? Favourite dreams are one thing, but it costs many fortunes to pay for them.

May 11, 2016

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Have the Scots backed off Independance ???

May 11, 2016

Most SNP voters want and will always want independence and I doubt any YES voters have changed nor ever will change their minds. Some NO voters may have changed their minds but not nearly enough to encourage Wee Nicola to think she can win another referendum and until she KNOWS she can win then there won't be another referendum irrespective of the outcome of the EU referendum. I for one want to see her leading Scotland to better things in this next term in office and with a decent measured opposition from 'Tank Girl' Ruth I hope she can. We need to accept our country (Scotland) is divided on the matter but whilst the divide remains at its current proportions which I think it will we need to focus on healing wounds and dealing with our immediate problems, education, health, jobs and the economy and leave the constitutional question to a day very far in the future IMO.

May 12, 2016

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Have the Scots backed off Independance ???

May 12, 2016

Frankie you live in Scotland and understand the way with it all ,the people living south of the border are (can I say ) fed up by the SNP making it down to them for Scotland's woes . The British government ,the Tories are split on Brexit and again are making silly comments that June 24th the world will stop for the UK ,we all have to live on/in the island of the Briton , so which ever way the masses vote In/Out ,stay or go the sun will rise it'll still rain and we'll have taxes ,yes life goes on ,let's be British and stay friends .


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