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February 4, 2017

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Hips !

February 4, 2017

Sorry to hear about your hips John, I have never had issues with mine and I am still running but from my days in the NHS I know groin pain is a classic symptom of hip joint wear. I understand that it can come on really suddenly as well, as the cushion between the ball and the socket wears away and it becomes bone on bone!! Some people of our age and older turn awkwardly or fall and fracture the hip joint having had no symptoms at all previously. You  likely need a good orthopod mate, if you do need hip replacements. The right one MIGHT be caused by you favouring it as the left one got so painful but the XRays will reveal all. Some hospitals are reluctant to undertake double hip replacements favouring single procedures which allow one good weight bearing leg to aid the recovery phase. It all depends on the orthopod, the patient and hospital protocols.  There are, as you will have been told, other possible causes osteoarthritis etc but the groin pain points more to hip replacement. It's a fairly bog standard operation and produces amazing results, I have watched one being performed, if you need one ask the surgeon which artificial joints he is using, you can google which are the most clinically recommended these days, I remember getting involved in the 3M joint replacement legal case some years ago when literally thousands of  hip joints were recalled as faulty, many of them already implanted in people's hips!  Things are much better now but it's no bad thing to be informed! Hope this helps a bit John, best wishes my old chum, hope it is all resolved soon. David.

February 4, 2017

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February 4, 2017

John, do you remember that boxing match we had in JLR against the Junior Guards Bn, might have been another junior unit but they had junior guardsmen in their team? It was held in the gym up the top end of camp. You fought a huge great guy who towered over you and fought well, I recall you got punched on the nose so you knocked him out! I fought a junior ISBA and ABA guy who knocked 7 colours of the proverbial out of me, I lasted 2 and a bit rounds before RSF. I also recall Brummie Whitehouse, I'm sure, knocking his opponent through the ropes and carrying on hitting him he had to be pulled off him by the ref. Another name I seem to recall fighting that night was Grayson or something like that. I think Gill Neill and Maxi Bacon were our boxing coaches. Do you remember them both, Maxi, RTR, looked like he had been employed as a punch bag in a back street boxing club. Gill Neill 5DG was a brilliant guy. There were some really good boxers in JLR in those days, I'm terrible with names now but the 15/19th guy Johnny .... was brilliant,  he beat me in an inter regimental squash match against 15/19th in Sennelager many years later, Jim Collins 13/18th was also an Army boxer and of course your good self who went onto to greater things in the army boxing circles. Sadly after you left the boxing team went into decline. Just reminiscing a bit lol. It's an age thing!

February 4, 2017

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Hips !

February 4, 2017

Ps I do know my last post has nothing to do with hips!!

February 4, 2017

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Hips !

February 4, 2017

David, Thanks for the info regarding hip replacements - ever the optimist, I'm hoping the X rays will show as just a "bit of wear & tear" or as, you say, arthritis in the joints, meaning no operation required, "just keep taking the pills"  ! To continue along the "non- hips" theme, yes, I clearly recall the boxing days of yore ! Brummie Whitehouse did as you remember, "Ginge " Grayson (a big pal of Derek Kettle's, both joined the 15/19th,), Derek being the guy I fought in an exhibition and "accidentally" right hooked him in the throat (he'd also punched me on the nose !) causing his downfall. Johnny CHRISTIAN was the 15/19th guy, a brilliant boxer (later Lt Colonel, now RIP), who was "used" by the JLR CO ( Lt Col Jolly, 13/18th) to teach bully boys a lesson in the gym - he never failed to get the message across ! In todays mamby pamby pc world, he'd never get away with it of course, both the CO & Johnny C would be court martialled !! Jim Collins, yep, head hunted by the 15/19th (THE boxing Regiment of the day) although he was originally down for his county Regiment, 13/18th H. Maxie Bacon, your description of him so accurate ! He used to make us sweep the wooden spider block gym floor to "warm up", saying "if it was good enough for Joe Louis to warm up that way, it was good enough for us "!  Yep, him & Gill Neill were our trainers. Gill asked me to turn pro at one stage - did you know he was a former pro boxer himself, only Dave Charnley stopping  him from winning the British title ? Gill later joined the APTC and was posted to 3DG in Detmold as our Army Physical Training Corps Sgt Instructor - coincidence or what ? He then trained me once again, helping me to the BAOR Middleweight title , although he wasn't in Berlin to see me get it, having been moved on because, I think, Harry Mantle (RIP) pushed for a football oriented APTC guy in order for us to win the Cavalry Cup (which we did, with me playing in goal when we beat the Scots Greys at Burton Court circa '65). I'm reminiscing a fair bit myself here too, great isn't it !?! It proves the memory banks aren't completely empty yet ! Regards,  John (JKW)

February 4, 2017

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February 4, 2017

Great memories John, how could I forget John Christian's surname! I think I joined JLR the term he left. Sad to hear he has passed on. When I was So2 G3 P Info at the Corps HQ I hosted a press visit to 15/19th in Paderborn, JC was QM, a real gent, he went out of his way to help me and the press loved him. You won't remember me in JLR I was a good bit behind you, I think you were Junior Sgt when I joined, I was still a J/Tpr when you got J/RSM!  I weighed 7 stone 6lbs when I arrived at Bovvy, I started boxing because I wanted to put on some weight and to stop getting bullied, it worked!  My Troop Sgt  when I joined was Dave Mason 3DG, the other one! My Troop Leader was ......wait for it......Lt Bowers  3DG, he had THE most beautiful wife I recall. Do you remember the guy in the RTR I think, who allegedly laid down on the railway line near Wool or somewhere and was decapitated. None of this has 'owt' to do with hips but I love reminiscing, your memory is better than mine though that's for sure. Take care John , I hope the hips improve and you can give the ops miss.D.  

February 6, 2017

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February 6, 2017

Modern medicine or should I say surgery knees,hips etc are common,even new shoulders. In our village in Ireland we have a young guy of 49/50 had both hips done in the last 12 months,a couple of ladies with new knees ,and the wife's cousin just had a new hip after a fall in her garden and she's 81 and was up and around in weeks . The main thing if you do have this type of surgery is to " do the physio " then your recovery is that much quicker, anyway not going to teach you to suck eggs John get it done do the physio and get on with your life. Good luck

February 6, 2017

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Hips !

February 6, 2017

I thought I'd put in my tuppence worth on this one. June 2015 my dearly beloved had a problem with her right leg. The Doc thought it was a muscle problem. Treatment by Physio seemed to cure the problem. The leg then started to get worse after a period of time. Back to the Physio (different one this time) The pain didn't go away. The Doc decided an x-ray was required. Then it was found that she had severe arthritis in the hip area. Off to see the consultant in the hospital. It was decided that she needed a hip replacement op. The time lines for this is 12 weeks. If the NHS can't do it in this time they have to pass the op over to a private hospital and the NHS pays for it. I considered this and thought it was going to take to long as she was in pain. So I had a look at private hospitals who could carry out the op. The cost was around £ 11k. My dearly beloved said wait which we did. Anyway, to get back to it. The NHS came up with a date and in she went. Interestingly, she wasn't given a general anaesthetic but a local injection into the base of the spine. Working on the principal that she would recover quicker and be back on her feet. The op took place at 08.00 and she called me from her bed at 12.00 after she had some lunch. Straight forward so far? Nope. Her blood pressure fell which meant she couldn't get out of bed and back on to legs. She was kept in for four days and then discharged with instructions on the exercises that she had to carry out which she followed. No probs? After 7 days, her leg and knee started to swell up and she was in a lot of pain. Our GP came down to see her and after looking phoned up the hospital. In she went, had a scan and was told that she had a clot which was moving up her thigh. Admitted, x-rays, drips and other medication. Whilst she was in the hospital, they found that she had fluid in her lungs and this was drained out. 5 litres. She was also told that whilst she was in the hospital she'd had a mild heart attack. Anyway, she was eventually discharged, before this, one of the docs said that she'd probably had enough radiation from the x-rays and scans to last a life time.  She's now back to full health and walks regularly. In fact I had her giving me a hand to pull the track back on to our Kettenkrad last week. There was no complaints about the level of care that she received but I should say that if our GP hadn't picked up on the clot she would have been a goner.

February 6, 2017

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February 6, 2017

Not an overly encouraging story Alfie, glad everything turned out for the best. The issues your lady wife suffered are all likely co-related. The blood clot could be from the post operative time she spent in bed, I wonder if she was given subcutaneous anti clotting meds? The fluid on her lungs could also stem from immobility and could be a factor in her mild infarction. Blood clots ARE dangerous though as you rightly point out, my late daughter had an MRI whilst undergoing treatment for pancreatic cancer, the hospital rang her three weeks later to ask if she was on anti blood clotting meds because the MRI showed she had a pulmonary embolism (blood clot) in her lung. Luckily she was because I had insisted on it when she became bed bound a few weeks before that. I later confronted the staff at the hospital and they were very contrite agreeing had Diana not been on Fragmin (the blood thinning med) the clot could have killed her. It took three weeks for them to tell us of a potentially life threatening blood clot! Diana's NHS treatment during her 8 month battle with pancreatic cancer fluctuated between outstanding to abysmal I must say. Anyway, glad Mrs Scott is well again and helping with the track bashing I apologise for not remembering your wife's first name, I forgot my own wife's name yesterday lol!! John is hoping, not unnaturally, to avoid surgery! Let's hope that is so! As an aside the  issue of an epidural rather than GA is quite  common these days as it does help speed up recovery but most hospitals here offer patients a choice as the hip joint replacement procedure, in particular, does involve a lot of pulling, pushing, brute strength and intelligence rather than ignorance.

February 6, 2017

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 684
Hips !

February 6, 2017

Not an overly encouraging story Alfie, glad everything turned out for the best. The issues your lady wife suffered are all likely co-related. The blood clot could be from the post operative time she spent in bed, I wonder if she was given subcutaneous anti clotting meds? The fluid on her lungs could also stem from immobility and could be a factor in her mild infarction. Blood clots ARE dangerous though as you rightly point out, my late daughter had an MRI whilst undergoing treatment for pancreatic cancer, the hospital rang her three weeks later to ask if she was on anti blood clotting meds because the MRI showed she had a pulmonary embolism (blood clot) in her lung. Luckily she was because I had insisted on it when she became bed bound a few weeks before that. I later confronted the staff at the hospital and they were very contrite agreeing had Diana not been on Fragmin (the blood thinning med) the clot could have killed her. It took three weeks for them to tell us of a potentially life threatening blood clot! Diana's NHS treatment during her 8 month battle with pancreatic cancer fluctuated between outstanding to abysmal I must say. Anyway, glad Mrs Scott is well again and helping with the track bashing I apologise for not remembering your wife's first name, I forgot my own wife's name yesterday lol!! John is hoping, not unnaturally, to avoid surgery! Let's hope that is so! As an aside the  issue of an epidural rather than GA is quite  common these days as it does help speed up recovery but most hospitals here offer patients a choice as the hip joint replacement procedure, in particular, does involve a lot of pulling, pushing, brute strength and intelligence rather than ignorance.

February 6, 2017

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February 6, 2017

Looks like I've a lot to look forward to then IF............ !!!! John (JKW)

February 6, 2017

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February 6, 2017

Always look on the bright side of life!  99per cent of hip operations take place without any incident, AND there's no saying yet you will need it!

February 7, 2017

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February 7, 2017

David, You're so right !! Doctor today confirmed no op needed in the medium term (5-10 years), I have osteo arthritis in both hips that can be pain managed OK. What IS surprising is that the X rays showed my right hip was the worst affected, yet it's the left that has really been giving me grief. Anyway, it's "good news week", just my lower back to sort out now ( protruding disc), but "I have a cunning plan" (like Baldrick), to get myself A1 again without medication or operations - I might even be able to take up boxing again, but then again, probably not !! John (JKW)

February 7, 2017

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February 7, 2017

I am genuinely pleased for you John, it is always worrying when you don't know what is causing a medical issue and being able to avoid an operation is always a good thing. Boasting about my hips being fine, still running etc in my first post I think one of my knees is on the way out after yesterday's exercise lol! I do find I take ages to repair anything I hurt these days. Last year I tore my Achilles' tendon out running in the woods, it took over 3 months to heal anywhere near good enough to weight bear whilst running. Anyway I also have a cunning plan to save my knee joints, I have just bought us both new bikes. Got the GTech ebikes that are advertised on the TV. They are super light, have extra tough wearing tyres and most importantly a lithium battery to help you up hills. You have to pedal to move but if the battery is switched on you can cycle up the steepest hill with ease and little effort. On the flat you can either pedal as normal or use the battery to help, it has a range of 30 miles so you can have a really good exercise ride and when you get tired let the battery take the strain. My doctor suggested it as a good alternative to running and saving wearvon hip and knee joints. You should try it John, I can see you and Carol circumnavigating Stafford on les bicyclettes! As for the boxing, I had a go the other day,I boxed a Veronika's birthday present!!

February 8, 2017

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February 8, 2017

Thanks for that David - with regards the GTech bike, great idea ! I've still got a "normal" bike , languishing in the garage where it's been since late last summer, not due to any hip pains, purely through a lack of get up & go on my part (and the weather) ! Come the spring, I'll recycle it ( pun intended) and see how it (me !) goes, and if not up to speed as it were, might seriously consider joining the GTech Club (not the Vacuum Branch !). You say you find it takes ages to repair / heal these days - up to aged 30 I was fully able to play 3 footy matches a week, then until 35 it was 2 matches, and after 35 just one match per week due to knocks & sprains taking so much longer to recover. Mind you, not long after I didn't get much chance to play many games, especially after Colin Donnelly (APTC) dropped me from the Mess team, which I reckon he'd have done much sooner if I hadn't been RSM !! John (JKW)


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