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January 6, 2017

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Recruiting

January 6, 2017

David, As you know, I was a Recruiting Sgt in Chester for 3 years ('68-'71), about the time you transferred from the "Shiny 10th"  with the James' twins (RIP Jimmie) I think, and thoroughly enjoyed the job. Today however, for the reasons you've outlined above, I reckon it would be almost impossible to reach the enlistment "targets" we always hoped to achieve, plus I'd be inclined to reject more than a few of those who did try to enlist ! Come to think of it, again, for the reasons you've outlined, and more, I wouldn't want to serve in today's "modern army" either !! John (JKW)

January 6, 2017

Joined: May 12, 2014
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January 6, 2017

There are hardly any recruiting Sgts now John, it's all outsourced to a private firm. Capita has the contract and they are delivering a 10/15 per cent shortfall year on year. The criticisms of them  include relying on a centralist approach, lots of anonymous call centres, lots of form filling, burocracy et al and very little face to face contact ergo no recruiting Sgts. Would be recruits no longer have the opportunity to gain first hand advice from experienced SNCOs who can advise on service arms, life in the forces and so on. I can think of no good reason to advise anyone to enlist in this day and age. I think we had the best of it all on reflection!

January 7, 2017

Joined: May 5, 2014
Posts: 555
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January 7, 2017

I didn't know that ! Recruiting outsourced to Capita, civvies running the cookhouse & NAAFI, even the REME jobs have mostly been civilianised, God help us. I'm sure everyone who served remembers their initial contact with a Recruiting Sgt, their first meal in the cookhouse and first NAAFI tea & wad , the (usually) scruffy oil stained vehicle mechanic who bodged up the tank engine / pack to keep it running  - now it seems that's all changed, ( faceless / anonymous recruiting staff, restaurants in the barracks, expensive civvy canteens and most likely, crews now issued with an app to contact the AA when the Jackal (go-kart ) breaks down )!! Yep, you're so right David, we really did have the best of it all, & I feel so fortunate to have been able to serve when I did - as the saying goes, "Happy Days". John (JKW)

January 8, 2017

Joined: May 8, 2014
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January 8, 2017

As an old recruiter myself ,a special Regimental one at that in the late 70's early 80's in Preston for the 14/20 recruiting was oh so easy . The Manchester patch outside of London was the top of all the figures month in month out average 360-390 off to selection centre and the blue jobs across the street from us were just as busy. I have recent involvement with getting one of my great nephews into the Navy ,now this is a lad who has an honours degree in electro engineering from John Moores ,couldn't get a job on Merseyside,tooo qualified not enough experience etc . His dad asked what could I advise ,with his education and being 23 I had suggested the RAF , but he fancied the Navy ,nuclear subs to be precise mmmm ok small elite officers/numbers . Off he went to Portsmouth for "O" selection 5 days etc back in March 16 , it seems he didn't have enough points for a commission then , he persisted and did a rerun in November . The 6th of February 2017 we have another member of the Riley family off to defend our country in the services joining the Royal Navy at Portsmouth . Now that took 8/9 months for him with an education to dream of ,okay he's a computer geek ,5foot 5inches tall weighs about 9 stone ,fit as feck,something as a recruiter I/we would have died for back in the day . To think it was interview,test,interview, and Sutton Coldfield in about 4/5 weeks ,then off to basic training,job done ,so civvies have no idea of military life ,yes we had Northern Ireland Germany and based around the globe ,great for the adventure for a youngster . Yes we were losing our manufacturing base ,strikes every feckin day ,literally no jobs for school leavers ,but now the jobs that kids leaving school with no qualifications in the large towns and cities are being done by migrants ( for peanuts) from Eastern Europe countries. But I suppose like yourself I look at the 21st century teenagers and think "were did we go wrong"????? . Can you imagine my middle 17 year old granddaughter texts her mum from her bedroom to ask for a cuppa ,toooo lazy to come down and do it herself,so this is the modern generation that they have put in the hands of civvies to recruit into our military etc . Yes it may look good on a spread sheet ,but come on it did two things ,1)correct info for the applicants 2) allowed regiments/corps to cherry pick the best for them. The very idea of going into the recruiting office and seeing guys/ gals in uniform looking the part ,talking the life ,giving information on their way of life ,careers etc  yes every time but mister smith short fat and bald would be a turn off ,or am I wrong??????

January 8, 2017

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 977
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January 8, 2017

And I bet it was the russkies who put these ideas into our government's/defence chiefs heads!!!! Cock it up from the start ergo no need to actually go to war......Russkies win - win situation without getting out of bed.....And I bet it was Putin who forced Klopp to put out that team (?????) today.........

January 8, 2017

Joined: May 5, 2014
Posts: 555
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January 8, 2017

Yep, and we can't even moan if we're last on MotD tonight !! John (JKW)

January 9, 2017

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 977
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January 9, 2017

The challenge now is for Klopp to put out the full power team, and not the boys. Too many young lads, not enough experienced ones. I feel sorry for the youngsters, at least they tried, but with nobody guiding them the result was apparent from the first few minutes.The local primary school could put on a similar game, but they are under age.....AND I cannot help, I have already used up all my lucky Christmas wish list.....


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