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April 25, 2015

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April 25, 2015

Bob, How many psuedo fags do you puff a day? Reason I ask is that if you have given up real fags totally, is there any chance you could drop one or two make - believe fags each week, till you get down to none? Then you will be able to save all that tax you pay right now to the Irish government. However I would never suggest that you (or me) give up the amber liquid for ANY reason, that would be tragic, nay, impossible.  As for India and that gift from UK of £200 million a year, they should be giving us in UK all of it back if they are using it to develope nuclear weapons and visiting their relatives on Mars. And I say this last bit about Mars, cos jealousy is green, and so are the Indians with jealousy, at our way of life compared to the living standards of the vast majority of their citizens.

April 25, 2015

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April 25, 2015

Well Bob, good to hear you are still not smoking cigarettes and that you are feeling the benefits already. You have done really well to get this far. The India analogy you mention is easy to explain. There are about 850 million or so (maybe even more now) Indians living in that country. Well over half of them, as you probably know better than me, live a subsistence existence. I don't know the average daily income of the population but I wouldn't be surprised to learn 35 rupees to the lower paid people and the lower castes is a higher percentage of their daily disposable income than the 10 euros a packet is to much of  the population of Ireland. Market product prices tend to vary according to local circumstances and incomes ergo the low prices in India. Apropos your E cigs liquid (nicotine I am assuming). I firmly believe, on the evidence I have read and from talking to erstwhile  colleagues and friends who are clinicians, that E cigs are considerably less harmful than cigarettes, cigars or pipe tobacco if inhaled. But you know that nicotine, however it is inhaled or ingested, is still bad for you so I echo Tom's suggestion that you might want to consider gradually weaning yourself off it all together as time progresses.. Just re-read that para and it looks like I am preaching to you, not my intention at all, just thinking of your health and well being!! As an aside, I can't talk for Ireland but in England the total annual tobacco taxation income to the treasury, from all sources (VAT, corporation taxes et al), amounts to approximately 3.5-4 times the average yearly spend in the NHS on all smoking related diseases and illnesses. So, those people who ask why successive Governments don't simply ban smoking per se instead of just making life so very difficult for smokers now know the reason why. Like most things in life; it's all about MONEY!! Anyway, like I said good to hear you are staying strong. I stopped almost 6 years ago, went cold turkey, one of the single best decisions I ever made.

April 25, 2015

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April 25, 2015

I packed in the dreaded fags 10 years ago in November this year, & can honestly say that , health-wise, I have NOT noticed any difference. I never coughed, never got short of breath, or failed to taste good food whilst a smoker, and any cash saved from stopping has found other places to go ! To be fair, I am much better off in reality, & wonder how anyone can afford to smoke these days (unless they're on max benefits of course - oops, getting political there !). What is noticeable however, is I can SMELL a smoker a mile off (stinking just like I must have done ), and I no longer feel like a pariah with people turning their nose up in disgust which they did if / when I lit up outside ! Keep up the good work Bob, you're well over the worst now. When I stopped the medical info was "After 2 years your body will be clear of the effects of smoking" - when my 2 years was up they moved the goal posts, saying it was 5 years, and when I passed that milestone I heard it's now 10 years before I'm at the same risk as a non-smoker ! Incidentally, even after all these non-smoking years, I very occasionally think "I could just go a fag now", (usually after sitting down having finished mowing the lawn), but there's no way I ever would start again - as Dave F said, the best decision ever made was to pack 'em in. John (JKW)  

April 26, 2015

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April 26, 2015

John,David and Tom thank you for you support ,as John stated I now can smell a smoker at a 100 feet,( 55 years smelling like an ashtray YUK ) about the risks of smoking I remember when Roy Castle died of lung cancer ,never having smoked , I'm a realist something is going to kill me , could a number 10 bus or heart failure so enjoy every day as if your last....me now I've had the big 'C' had the treatment and still above soil ...........David the population of India is 1.2 billion just behind China,they have 5/600 million who can't read or write....BUT ( that f in word ) 900 million mobile phones in use daily...and here's a killer,a 100 ruppee's is a living daily wage .....We have been going there now since the mid 90's and have seen people travel from Tibet (1500 miles) to work as a waiter etc for the winter in Goa then travel home for the rainy season....they still have the caste system and we/I have seen families living by a water well for the time we are there ,oh yes children are delivered there too!!!!!!! So we are lucky we had there system/way of life back in Roman times ....the main thing must be education for the generations to come,so they can offer an employer a viable worker ...enough preaching..... now Tom as the old advert used to be a Mars a day helps you ....I know not funny but neither is the money their wasting on trying to get there

April 27, 2015

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April 27, 2015

Bob,  Spot on, my friend!!

June 5, 2015

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June 5, 2015

6 months I said 6 months ''you buy one and you don't get one free'' (who's getting near the AAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

June 23, 2015

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June 23, 2015

Nothing wrong with smokers, but if you suffer ill health through smoking, no sort of help should be given on the NHS, it's the same with idiots who go climbing mountains and need to be rescued, same with potholers, if they get stuck, leave them there. I object to  walking through a shopping precinct and having to pass through a wall of smoke, if it's self inflicted, it's your problem, why should the state have to spend money to help you. You can tell that I used to smoke, gave up 30 years ago and I did not realise what a pain I was to non smokers, you can also tell that I have a low tolerance to people who annoy me, this could be because I am perfect.

June 23, 2015

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June 23, 2015

Charlie only just relised that your perfect .........I've known for years ....and now I 'm half a year without a fag !!!!!!!!

September 8, 2015

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September 8, 2015

So here we are in September and I've still NOT had a cigarette,also have help converted my kids and my oldest granddaughter off cigarettes ....weening myself now on zero nicotine juice ....so 9 months and counting!!!

September 9, 2015

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September 9, 2015

Way to go!¬! You have done really well. Now get off the Vaps or whatever they are called and you will be a free person, free to live your life independent of any addictive substances. Keep it up Bob, many of us have been there before you so we know it takes a bit of determination and strength of character. I'm 6 years free now and I can really tell the difference, especially when I'm out jogging, my BP is down, my chest is clear and I no longer get the dreaded annual winter bronchitis. Lots going for quitting so stay with it Bob. Take care!

September 9, 2015

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September 9, 2015

Dave what about a good malt ?

September 9, 2015

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September 9, 2015

Bob; imbibing a good malt is not an addiction, it is a necessary facet of sustaining life and making life worthwhile. A good malt is never addictive because you know it is there to be savoured in small doses.

March 13, 2016

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March 13, 2016

I used to think I was big headed, until I realised I was perfect. It took me many years to stop smoking, I stopped in 1981 in Fallingbostel. I have not looked back since. Although I have often thought of the times I had a fag. In my school years in 1947-1948 we used to smoke anything that would burn. Paper, any kind of dry leaves, tea, grass (the lawn sort ) and even old dog ends on the bus. When I was in hospital having an aneurism sorted and saw the number of mainly men having legs amputated or veins replaced in their legs,al the result of what is known as smoker's leg. If that was better publicised, we would see more non-smokers. My eldest son had smoked all his life ,up until he had an heart attack. That stopped him in his tracks. Now he is a fervent non-smoker. Smoking is smoking regardless of it being a fag or or a liquid (that is supposed to be healthier ) As I experienced. It is difficult to give up, but in the end it is worth it.

March 13, 2016

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March 13, 2016

Sorry if I ranted on bit, but as one gets older one becomes a serious Pessimist . (The use of the ONE bit, is officer speak ).

March 13, 2016

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March 13, 2016

"ONE" did realise that Judd, although of course I never was ONE !!   John (JKW)


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