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September 7, 2017

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September 7, 2017

I heard a Labour MP on Sky News today, giving her opinion on Brexit and the legislation discussed in Parliament earlier - her name was Kate Hoey, Labour MP for Vauxhall, and she spoke a lot of common sense, and although I know she's a Brexiteer anyway, she was certainly  articulate in voicing her considered opinion on the subject. I was beginning to think there was no one left (wrong word maybe !?!) in Labour who could speak without denigrating all efforts at imposing the democratic will of the electorate, but at last I find , THERE IS ONE ! John (JKW)

September 8, 2017

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September 8, 2017

She has always been the voice of reason and sanity. She was Sports Minister for a while in the Blair Govt. I think she is Northern Irish by birth. Not long ago there was some media coverage of her being taken to task by Labour for being too close to Boris Johnson when he was London Mayor. Did you know she once worked for Arsenal FC before becoming an MP?      

September 8, 2017

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September 8, 2017

No, I didn't know of her affiliation to Arsenal, but have since found out she was Educational Advisor ( at different times) to 5 London based football clubs, including Arsenal, and also Northern Ireland High Jump Champion in 1966. Born in County Antrim, she's been a thorn in Labour's side at times by rebelling against their views & policies, so, as I said, there is one !! John (JKW)

September 10, 2017

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September 10, 2017

My contribution to this discussion is to say just 2 words ,"Tony Blair" nuff said

September 10, 2017

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September 10, 2017

She was a Blairite. BUT; she never supported Corbyn and she has never denied being a Blair supporter unlike the majority of the current cohort of Labour MPs. She does and says some odd things from time to time but she is an absolute supporter of Brexit contrary to everything Blair stands for.

September 10, 2017

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September 10, 2017

When you think about it, there's been some fairly cr*p Labour Party leaders since the days of Harold Wilson - I name just a few IMO ; Michael Foot (Donkey Jacket), Neil Kinnock ( All Mouth & No Trousers), Gordon (Turn That Mic OFF!) Brown,  Tony (Trust Me ) Blair, & now of course Jeremy Corbyn ( Pacifist & "I'll Promise ANYTHING for your vote"). James Callaghan & John Smith excluded from this list because they seemed honourable guys, Smith of course passing away soon after taking the reins. With BOTH major Party's now riven with internal strife over policies & personnel, I wonder just where we go from here ( I do NOT count the Lib Dems as a major force in British politics, quite the reverse in fact) - is there scope for an alternative, MIDDLE Ground Party to take us forward ? If so, it would take someone with the charisma of Nigel Farage to lead it, with his lieutenants being guys like Hillary Benn & Kate Hoey for their common sense logic, and the remainder being people with experience of REAL life who are driven to serve the electorate without bias, personal greed, or extreme Left / Right tendencies - any takers ? Any views ? John (JKW)

September 10, 2017

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September 10, 2017

Yes, some totally crap leaders. Mind you the Tories had Heath, Hague, IDS, Howard, none of who covered themselves in political glory. Margaret Thatcher divided and still divides  the nation into two factions. One which revered her the other which despised her. I belong to the former camp! But there IS a dearth of charismatic political big hitters nowadays in Parliament, from both sides of The House. We NEED someone with Thatcher's determination, her strength of character, integrity and foresight. Hilary Benn is a man of immense integrity, hugely intelligent, charismatic and totally trustworthy, a man who people stop and listen to, he holds people's attention when he speaks. The recent furore over his 'revelation' that his Catholicism meant he couldn't support abortion in any circumstance, including rape or abuse and his non acceptance of gay marriage as being against the teachings of his faith showed exactly what sort of politician and person he is. It came hot on the heels of speculation that he was being touted as the next Tory leader. He KNEW his statements would be seized upon as being totally non PC , absolutely out of kilter with modern day thinking by the majority of people, yet still his  integrity prevailed and he didn't seek to lie. I happen to disagree with him on both points but I totally respect his honesty. I read 3 national newspapers daily, yes really, I take a keen interest in politics, yet I can see no obvious, natural leaders 'lurking' in the back benches of either party, Benn notwithstanding. The whole of Parliament is riven by back biting, in fighting, intrigue and disloyalty, as it has been for decades. It's just today's lot seem so lightweight, callous, weak and untrustworthy.

September 10, 2017

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September 10, 2017

Far be it for me to disagree David, but I reckon the guy you refer to was NOT Hillary Benn, but Douglas Hogg ! Benn ( son of Tony ) was the MP who stood up in Parliament and gave a rousing speech that was applauded at the time by all sides of the House, much to the Lefty's dismay. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. John (JKW)

September 10, 2017

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September 10, 2017

John, you are right to disagree. A very senior moment on my part. I meant Jacob Rees Mogg!! Funny thing is, I had a feeling that something wasn't quite right whilst typing that post; just couldn't figure out what it was. Hilary Benn made that rousing speech as you rightly say, Douglas Hogg very much belongs to yesterday year. Rees Mogg is very much of the 'old school values' cohort and is hugely intelligent. He was dismissed for a long time because of his slightly olde worlde persona and his very upper class accent but I suspect he is now being set up for high office if he wants it.

September 11, 2017

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September 11, 2017

Hogg ? Mogg ? Talk about "confused .com", too many senior moments between us, but we get there in the end eh !?! John (JKW)


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