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Turkish delight anyone ????
July 16, 2016

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Turkish delight anyone ????

July 16, 2016

I fail to understand how any human being can even THINK of commiting the crimes the loon in Nice did on Bastille Day, where people were remembering and celebrating a French Historical Day in that lovely French city.Driving into and over the innocents celebrating and remembering their big day is diabolical to say the least Bob. How fanatical must that man have been to deliberately run into and over all those victims, male,female, children and infants. Think back to the days of Brits in India, the military punished the Indian troops who killed the innocents there when they were blown apart over the muzzles of cannon to make the message obvious to those rebels. Not something to do nowadays, but in those days, it stopped the revolt. I do not advocate a repeat of this action in India, but do advocate much more serious and final punishments for people who carry out any attrocity such as the attack and killing of innocents in Nice the other day. I note, too, the fact that the Arab leaders of the Muslims have not condemned any of these attacks on innocents, it speaks volumes of the fact that these leaders are condoning the actions of the assassinations carried out in the name of Allah.

July 16, 2016

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Turkish delight anyone ????

July 16, 2016

We discussed the downsides of holidaying in places like Sharm and Turkey after the Tunisian slaughter. The simple but sad fact is I would not take any of my family to any country that is muslim in culture. I know France is not muslim and has suffered 3 major terrorist incidents  and such murderous acts are nit confined to Muslim countries but the whole Islamic world is just too volotile for westerners to go there. Turkey is a hotbed of internal factional fighting. After decades of being a secular state founded  by Kemal Ataturk the country voted(????) a Muslim hardliner into power and the inevitable happened. He oversaw despicable acts of violence against those who acted against him and now he is in hiding with yet another military coup in motion. It is simply too dangerous to go to these countries, there is enough danger from the murdering scumbag zealots here in the west without poking the lion and visiting their homelands. The Bastille day slaughter is difficult to comprehend. An apparent non practising muslim, someone who ignored almost all of the core principles of that religion, jumps into a hired truck and mows down whole crowds of innocent revellers. How does any security system aim off for that, he had no apparent terrorist connections, he was a known criminal but did not feature on the national security register, he seemingly just decided to kill a load of people. His first two victims were Muslims!! AND, yet again he was an Arab Muslim granted residence in the very country whose hospitality he repaid with mass murder. It beggars belief and I simply don't know how it can be prevented short of banning all Muslims from all western countries, what a sorry state of affairs the world has become. It saddens me deeply.

July 17, 2016

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Turkish delight anyone ????

July 17, 2016

David like you we as a family traveled through out Europe when serving there ,mostly with a caravan in tow even did Jugoslavia before the wall came down . My wife is an ardent traveler ,has been to Pakistan 3 times,Syria ,China and did the "silk route" through eastern republics ,and at the moment planning to visit Iran ( over my dead body ) . Again myself and oldest granddaughter are booked into Las Vegas this October,for Celine/Lionel shows , but I'm thinking my wife is a nut for her choice of countries but after the happenings in Dallas and other cities/towns in the states I begin to wonder . Your right about these nuts who attack everything non Muslim but here's a thought we winter in India and they have the largest Muslim population in the world ,yes they've had attacks in Bombay but it seems the population in general are happily living together and their security is in your face where ever you go ,example last time I flew from Bombay we were checked about a dozen times once inside the airport,and you don't argue with a couple guys with guns . We as a family have from our time living in Rochdale have some Muslims as friends ( that's the reason my wife visited Pakistan 3 times wedding etc ) yes they were educated people or business people and over the age of 21 ( being the age of radicalisation ) in general the majority just want what we have a good life and a safe country for our kids to prosper,it's the point something of a percent who believe that the book has to be followed until death ,how do we get over that problem oh and stop Saudie from financing most of these nuts

July 17, 2016

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Turkish delight anyone ????

July 17, 2016

Bob, it's not just Saudi, Iran and Russia are also paymasters of different factions. Apropos Muslims per se, I have met many wonderful Muslim people, gracious and peaceful people, folks who hate what is being carried out in the name of Islam. But the sad fact is too many Muslims know or at least suspect when radicals within their communities are planning atrocities and, out of fear indifference or conviction choose not to report them to the security forces. Likewise too many Muslims living in the west, having been granted residence and all the benefits of a democracy they were denied in their own countries, singularly fail to publicly condemn the atrocities when they happen. It is a fact that most of the atrocities in the European countries were committed by Muslims who were citizens of the very countries they targeted, some were even born here as second or third  generation immigrants. Turkey, Egypt, Tunesia, Morroco, all countries we love to visit are firmly struck off our "places to revisit" list now along with any and all other Muslim countries. You mention  India, it does seem that they still somehow manage to avoid the worst excesses of religious fanaticism but they have mega problems as well. Hey Ho we will stick to   Western countries to holiday and take our chances at least if anything happens you have a half decent chance of getting help!!

July 21, 2016

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 1203
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July 21, 2016

Now "El Presidenty" has really got his teeth into the oposition , a 3 month "emergency powers " etc etc to sort all the people who said booh to him . The numbers are staggering and growing each day (60000) imagine if J Corbyn had those powers ??? Don't you just love it when another Mediterranean country goes off the tourist list , looks like Blackpool next year .


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