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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????
May 25, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 25, 2016

Phew thats a long title for a post , well what will happen to the government party ??? All this gloom and doom ,you name it the remain lot have us at war ,broke,high inflation and unemployment ,they both are getting personnel calling names etc ,some of the remain facts don't add up ,the LEAVE lot haven't quite explained what they see our future ( whatever it is can't be as bad as 1940) the thought of not being able to buy a French cheese or a German car etc hasn't got me running for shelter .Britain being not in the Euro zone ( thank god) and being second only to the Germans can impose just as many sanctions as the 27 countries for their goods etc . The point is if we do vote OUT,will Cameron then call a General election to get a mandate from the people or will he struggle on with half his party against him ,the only N in the wood pile is labour are just not government material ,you Corbyn and his left wing nuts are frightning !!! Then the SNP could slip a referendum of their own in too , uuuurrrrmmm interesting , yes I'm going to let you speculate the future , one thing I know is whatever happens times are going to be ( as my drill sergeant would say ) FORWARD MARCH and hold your head up you feckin wanker ,over to you ?????? But the buzz word coming my lips is "Freedom"

May 25, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 25, 2016

The knives are out for Cameron. The rift the EU debate has caused is deep and bitter. Gove and Johnson will likely be sidelined if the referendum dictates we remain in the EU. Cameron and Osborne will leave shortly after if the decision goes the other way. To answer your question, I believe there will be NO kiss and make up. Cameron feels Johnson and Gove particularly have stabbed him in the back. Johnson was ALWAYS an advocate of us staying in the EU until he sensed there was an opportunity for him to usurp Cameron by switching sides. Gove was a personal close friend of  Cameron until he decided to nail his colours to the mast. I have always said I was pro Brexit and I remain firmly of that opinion. I have equally always maintained the referendum would result in a narrow victory for the Remain lobby and I still absolutely stand by that statement. What I do know for sure is whatever the outcome of the referendum the decision  will deeply divide the Tory Party, it will result in major cabinet changes and probably cause a vote of no confidence in Cameron, led by Johnson or his supporters. Far too much hyperbole and rhetoric has been spoken from both sides. Far too many lies have been spoken,  far too much scaremongering has taken place, far too many personal attacks on people have been made. It has all been a media frenzy, a gift from the headline gods to the press. Sadly; the losers as always are us, the plebs and that will likely remain so whatever the decision of the referendum.

May 25, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 25, 2016

The lunatics have escaped from the madhouse, and taken over the EU, with permanent residency, in charge of all aspects of EU activity. They are non elected, so therefore in any sensible democracy they would be removed and put back in the madhouse. I do not believe the EU is OUR choice of "friends and comrades", since they still feel ignored by the UK population, and jealous of us, our country and our constitution (once we get it back from the hands of the so called only viable leaders, the weak livered MPs in UK at the moment). Where are the true, brave and sensible members of the UK? The answer is easy to see, since WE are the ones with the common sense, and desire to progress on our journey through the years ahead. But without the unelected morons in seats of power in the EU,,,, they are the stupid people in this world. Cameron lost the plot the first time he mentioned "Referendum" without setting the correct demands immediately, mainly because he thought we, the voters, would never react in opposition to his remain policy. They never learn!!!! the lies and counter claims are not helping, so they should all shut up, give NO more advice to us, and await the result in June. But the enemy will still lie, lie, lie until they run out of breath, and still ignore we, the electorate. The rest of Europe have always envied our way of life, but since they can not hope to achieve the same in their own country, they will block and block and block our demands of sanity from the EU for a few more centuries.At every turn, we are blocked by the morons both in UK and the EU, who do not want to lose their "jobs for life" (with very high incomes into their pockets)  Get us out, and let us define and run our own destiny, not the misery the EU would heap upon us in UK. And they will.... they are jealous of our way of life, so lets us get out while we can.

May 29, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 29, 2016

If this sceptered isle of ours votes to remain in the EU, then over a thousand years of our history will be destroyed, and cast into the abyss. The EU, so much against us at the best of times, will punish us for having the temerity to try leaving this European bunch of self elected and undesirable leaders of no account and no common sense. If we in UK vote to remain in the EU, we will be dishonouring all the millions of people from these shores and our Commonwealth, who fought alongside us in many theatres of war, over many years, to refuse to bend the knee to outsiders and aggressors. We will be accused of also forgetting the massive sacrifices given by our people both at home (UK) and in our overseas Commonwealth during two horrific world wars, both in life and limb, to keep UK and the Commonwealth a safe haven for all our people. This can not be allowed to be swept aside, so we all owe it to our forebears who made such sacrifices without any thought for themselves, by leaving the EU asap!!  They would be appalled if they found out that we had ignored the sacrifices over many wars and hardships, in many conflicts,of our brothers and sisters  both in UK and the Commonwealth. We must take back our borders for the better of all who love and are willing to fight for our nation. The EU is not a nice place, the leaders (??) are anti UK, so let us demand our freedom from their ideas, and go back to PROPER government as we in UK know it. If we do not, then future generations will not know the value of the freedoms we had before the EU rose out of Hell. If we do not vote OUT, then we will be locked into a group of countries who will do their utmost to destroy our ideals. A  NO vote in the June vote will condemn all our people to a life of misery, without a doubt. The EU are jealous of our ability to cope, and win, while the EU will never be a good selection EVER. If we do not vote leave in June, then this country will no longer be a beacon of common sense and national desire and honour. And Ms Cameron and his idiotic pals will be condemned as the people who have handed the UK to all those foreign migrants from 3rd and 4th world countries who are too idle and too scared to fight for THEIR freedom, but are eager to take over a self reliant and great country, by the EU taking full control. Do NOT vote REMAIN, since you will be allowing the EU to wipe UK off the world map and the surface of the world. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Do NOT dishonour the sacrifices of so many of our forebears in so many conflicts, to keep this sceptered isle so great, so vote OUT.....

May 29, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 29, 2016

Tom, I guess you'll be  voting "OUT" then  !?! John (JKW)

May 29, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 29, 2016

Interesting article in today's MOS written by a journal who visited Norway to see how they fare outside the EU. They had 2 referendums on the EU and voted to remain out both times. They apparently have more EU economic migrants than we do as they had to sign up to allow EU citizens unrestricted access to their country as part of their trade deal with the EU. They also pay the EU £108 per head pa for the right to trade in the EU countries as opposed to our net £126 pp pa. Not a huge saving  to be had if we leave according to the report, Anyway the Norwegians interviewed said they had no benefits from being outside of the EU as they were obliged to kowtow to all the EU diktats as a price for the trade deal but had no influence whatsoever on any of the decisions made. Norway of course is oil rich and derives huge income from that and other mineral exports. Their consensus opinion was we should remain in the EU; if the article is to be believed, makes me wonder why they refused to join both times. Anyway: it all underpins my previous assertions that there WILL be a price to pay for Brexit and no one should think otherwise. So, have I changed my mind? Absolutely not I have never been under any delusions about the fact Brexit will make life more difficult for us for a while. But, we can and will overcome those difficulties  and the price will be worth it in the long run.

May 30, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 30, 2016

John, (JKW,) You can bet your bottom dollar that I will be voting out.How can ANY group of unelected (and there for life) heads of the corrupt EU be acknowledged as being unbiased? By the very fact they are there for life is contrary to the ethics of a ruling body, they should be up for re election after 5 years, when you can be sure they would be voted OUT. Any organisation which has life long rights to stay in power without being re elected after their 5 years in office is by definition corrupt. I will be pleased as punch if we could get these EU rulers out of office, they are not worth the 1 square foot they stand on. And I will happily accept that it will be rough outside the EU until everything settles down, but WE will at last be back in control of our destiny, without the parasites of the EU on our backs. And our forebears will again be pleased that we have done the right thing. I am willing to stand by my decision in this matter, I value my country and its citizens above all else, and will always do so. But NOT the millions of refugees intent on taking over our country, which is their sole object  in life. I stand by my decision, always.

May 30, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 30, 2016

I see that we are already experiencing mini invasions down on the south coast, with the coastguards (what,s left of them), the French helicopters, and lifeboats from two areas going to the rescue of illegal imigrants + two wanted brits, who are now all in custody, just watched the news, showing the boat being towed away, locals showed another boat of similar shape and size that was abandoned earlier last week, the occupants of which are already here, apparently it has become  regular  in the area for this to happen. Someone is making a mint out of this these boats are not cheap.

May 30, 2016

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Will Cameron and kiss and makeup after 23rd June ,Whatever the result ????

May 30, 2016

Sadly I think the battle to regain control of our borders is already a lost cause. The 3 Naval patrol boats we have  to police 7700 miles of coastline is nonsensical. Add into the equation even if we do manage to free ourselves of the shackles of the EU we will need to accept any and all EU citizens into this country if we want to agree trade deals with the EU and the future looks bleak. I absolutely concur with Tom's views on regaining our sovereignty but the immigration issue became a lost cause as soon as Merkel opened Germany's borders to all and sundry. Interestingly enough 2 illegal immigrants we arrested and handed over to the German police were released immediately once they were on German soil. I predict a 54percent vote to remain part of the EU and then the floodgates really will open will and truly!!


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