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May 23, 2017

Joined: May 8, 2014
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Will CCTV proof it’s worth

May 23, 2017

After last nights happening in the Manchester arena hopefully CCTV can produce the perpetrator prior to the explosion. Watching the news we have the usual platonic "by words " from politicians which I'm not going to repeat. The question now is "if we can identify this person" and he's a returning ISIS fighter " do we expel the whole family from the UK "????????? To think 18000 people mostly children or teenagers went out for a concert and at the moment 22 will never go home and 59 are injured. There will be words of hate said over the next day's/weeks  , will this change anything I doubt it , will certain parts of the population of the UK/World not be radicalised ,again I don't think so .Rumour control has all sorts of theories "who ,what,when" on social media that I see being a problem with things getting out of hand. Now the time to reflect,get the facts off CCTV ,identify the culprit and then make it safe for everyone going about their life.

May 23, 2017

Joined: May 5, 2014
Posts: 557
Will CCTV proof it’s worth

May 23, 2017

He HAS now been identified, and the fact the police raided his home address confirms, at least to me, he was on a "watch" list. Judging by his name (not going to give him fame time ) he is not of the stereotypical "white/English/Christian " origin and is therefore another hoping to join the "100 virgins" in Muslim heaven by murdering  & maiming totally innocents, his "target" of young women & children particularly despicable. If the usual " we knew he was suspicious, but couldn't afford the resources" etc is trotted out, then it's time to forget human rights for such people, and immediately deport them AND their families if not born here, or jail / intern them indefinitely if native to this land of the very  people they want to massacre. If such positive action prevents just one more atrocity being committed by these gutless, retarded ,perverted, twisted cowards who hide behind their religion,then it's a policy well worth pursuing. John (JKW)

May 24, 2017

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 685
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May 24, 2017

Another home grown terrorist. Another twisted, perverted maniac who was provided with all the benefits of our society, education, health, protection, everything he would not likely have received in the country of his parents. Another, 'thanks for helping me here's your reward' fanatic. The problem with our country in relation to internal security is complex BUT; everytime  the conservatives try to implement an enhanced security measure, such as longer detention before charging (to gather evidence), faster deportation etc the freaking 'Libtards' block it, crying 'uman rights'!! Well it's time we started concentrating on the human rights of those adults and kiddies murdered in cold blood in Manchester by a person who has complete disregard for any rights of anyone. Democracy is a noble institution when respected by those who live within its parameters. It is meaningless to those who don't EXCEPT when they are caught planning to bomb us or murder children, or when they are serving long sentences for terrorist activities or child abuse and suddenly demand their human rights to avoid deportation. Until we institute harsher, more draconian laws that enable police and intelligence services to remove suspects from the streets and deport them the rhetoric is meaningless. All the tears and teeth gnashing, the tributes and the mourning will fade into obscurity within months or even quicker and it will be a return to the status quo. A status quo heavily favouring the bad guys. I am personally sickened by the Manchester murder spree but I am almost as sickened by the same old empty, meaningless words, the trite 'they won't beat us' rhetoric, the 'life will go on regardless' sort of glib statements. It won't for those who keep getting killed! We need to fight fire with Fire!

May 24, 2017

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 685
Will CCTV proof it’s worth

May 24, 2017

Another home grown terrorist. Another twisted, perverted maniac who was provided with all the benefits of our society, education, health, protection, everything he would not likely have received in the country of his parents. Another, 'thanks for helping me here's your reward' fanatic. The problem with our country in relation to internal security is complex BUT; everytime  the conservatives try to implement an enhanced security measure, such as longer detention before charging (to gather evidence), faster deportation etc the freaking 'Libtards' block it, crying 'uman rights'!! Well it's time we started concentrating on the human rights of those adults and kiddies murdered in cold blood in Manchester by a person who has complete disregard for any rights of anyone. Democracy is a noble institution when respected by those who live within its parameters. It is meaningless to those who don't EXCEPT when they are caught planning to bomb us or murder children, or when they are serving long sentences for terrorist activities or child abuse and suddenly demand their human rights to avoid deportation. Until we institute harsher, more draconian laws that enable police and intelligence services to remove suspects from the streets and deport them the rhetoric is meaningless. All the tears and teeth gnashing, the tributes and the mourning will fade into obscurity within months or even quicker and it will be a return to the status quo. A status quo heavily favouring the bad guys. I am personally sickened by the Manchester murder spree but I am almost as sickened by the same old empty, meaningless words, the trite 'they won't beat us' rhetoric, the 'life will go on regardless' sort of glib statements. It won't for those who keep getting killed! We need to fight fire with Fire!

May 24, 2017

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 685
Will CCTV proof it’s worth

May 24, 2017

I only pressed the button once, honest guy!

May 24, 2017

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 1205
Will CCTV proof it’s worth

May 24, 2017

David I believe you ,now back to this bastard ,we are a lucky family as my middle teenage granddaughter couldn't get tickets for this gig. From what has been published this guys family fled Libya as political refugees given a home in the United Kingdom and he returned the charity by this atrocity. As you guys know internment does keep these cretins off the streets ready to deport,but our mamby pamby left wing politicians scream human rights. One bad apple doesn't ruin the barrel but when things like this happen I'd sooner be safe than sorry and deport all suspects out of the country. Throwing the race card into this issue is a NO NO as it's not racist to be against a religion only a certain race ,black ,white,Whatever . Close these mosques that are subject to security problems,and deport these radical preachers of hate , the area of most concern is the World Wide Web  that's for G C H Q to monitor and ACT .

May 24, 2017

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 977
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May 24, 2017

I have only just returned from South Wales, (with laptop left at home in Chester), but I have one long and special message to pass on to all those who served in 3DG/RSG and RSDG, as follows: After the dreadful goings on in Manchester, it brings home to me our time together in our service together.... For all the banter we played on each other at the time, our sole desire was to do our best and serve our country, in good times and bad, so the horrific actions in Manchester, when a person we allowed in to our country perpetrated an horrific, dreadful, undeserved action, and, perpetrated by the  person/persons involved, created and carried out such an undeserved and disgusting attack on innocent people, young, old, male,female, even people from overseas, only makes me want to say that "WE WILL REMEMBER THEM", young old, all nationalities, who were only going to a presentation from a young American lady, of music and song. The people who travelled from all over the country and beyond to attend the event, were celebrating music, song, and total entertainment,with NO political content at all, then the dreadful, disgusting and dead brained morons built a bomb, strapped it into the clothing of the killer,sent him to the theatre, where he exploded the device, killing all those victims, severely injuring even more, old, young, innocent, music loving persons from all over this country and beyond whose only desire was to be entertained. The foreign idiots who organised the explosion did NOT stop our young and older attendees  looking forward to the event activities, in whatever way, unlike the moronic twerps who carried out the prep, bomb build, delivery and final explosion who did not realise we will be more determined that THEY will never win, no matter what they do. During our time together in the forces, we DID have banter, and lots of it, every day. For that reason, I say in all honesty that I send my condolences to ALL Mancunians,  and say that "ANY enemy will never break our countrywide determination to continue our way of life. I also feel I must say that all those young attendees, male, female, of any skin colour, did NOT deserve this attack. May they rest in eternal peace, in the knowledge that we in UK will NEVER give in to terrorism from ANY source, but will persue any such attacks, My heart goes out to ALL Mancunians, ALWAYS. With you all the way Manchester, Tom


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