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July 18, 2015

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July 18, 2015

Almost as an afterthought, an aside, a minor issue, the Government commits a volte face on the important matter of a cap on nursing home costs for the elderly. A key part of the pre election Tory manifesto was a pledge to cap the re-coupable costs of elderly nursing home charges to a maximum of £74000. This would stop so many families being forced to sell the family home to pay for their wife/husbands' or parents' nursing home costs and redress the iniquitous and grossly unfair disadvantage placed on those who had saved and paid for their homes against those who had pi**ed their money against the wall. In essence if you have money and one of you is placed in a nursing home the local council can recoup the costs of that nursing home against anything you have over a figure of £18000. They have now put it off till 2020.  I despair of any of them EVER telling the truth!!

July 18, 2015

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July 18, 2015

David, in their own version of English, our leaders ARE telling the truth..... Everybody but them apparently is an inveterate liar,  but they forget that these  politicos do not know the meaning of "A Lie", and by their definition therefore, there is no such thing as a lie. The fact they tell "the truth" one day and tell us the next day the complete opposite is "true" only confuses the rest of us into which is which, since their retention limit is less than 1 millisecond, they can not recall saying anything..... Pity we lower echelons of society remember their blasts verbatum, whilst it has vanished from their own memory which only lasts almost before they have said it. Their "truth" is only in the ear of the speaker..... whilst to us, it is a downright LIE. And by the way, how does the SUN know WHY our fantastic Queen did show what the Sun says is a "Nazi Salute" ?  At that age, HM would probably think it was the German equivalent of a friendly wave. Were any of the SUN staff actually there to see this action of a very young Royal of the British Monarchy?? Elizabeth the First had the right idea re these comments  from The Sun paper, it is  "ORF with Their Heads"

July 19, 2015

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July 19, 2015

Tom sorry mate have to counter your argument on who said ""orrff with their ead "" it's our Henty V111 ....but you're right on the money ..David is also correct ..if you say you're going to do something when you're voted in/for then do a 180 turn round ......you get what the LibDems got nearly wiped out....so the Tories are allowing their supporters get their monies off shore before implementing this new agenda ....also now it's come to light our service personnel are bombing Syria against the will of Parliament....that conflict will only be sorted by boots on the ground all the tech toys in the world won't do , just more advertising for IS .Why ?Why? Aren't the Saudies etc sorting IT. as the numbers of people killed 90% or more are Muslim and they are supposed to the heartland of that religion eeerrrrmmm what will the West do

July 19, 2015

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July 19, 2015

Bob, I agree that Henry VIII did often  order people he did not like to lose their heads, both male and female, but since we were discussing the Sun shiiiit newspaper for criticising our future Queen for a "nazi salute" at the age of seven, I used Eliz 1st for the "ORF with his head" remark about the Sun owner (since the critisism was about the future QE 2), since Eliz 1st most famously had the head of Mary Queen of Scots chopped off for plotting against QE 1. I will accept, therefore, our comments as a DRAW, since the accusation was against the future QE 2....... Lssons over, time for home....

July 19, 2015

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July 19, 2015

Thoroughly cajoled I realise that you'd know cos you were there and me being a minor bow to your knowledge........yep I know Tom I'm to off piss ta ta

July 19, 2015

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July 19, 2015

Bob, I have known you too long to think that you would ever believe I would tell a porkie to such a great pal !! Besides,  you are bigger than me !!! HO HO HO.

July 20, 2015

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July 20, 2015

Bob, It is the chat we have between us that keeps our feet on the ground and our minds concentrated on life's most important subjects,  and how to protect them - like LFC and the bank balance....(what there is of it!!)  and the price of pigs, cows and horses in the Emerald Isle. Otherwise we would be as miserable as sin... and we are too clever to let that happen.

August 21, 2015

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August 21, 2015

Watching the news,Labour .......if one of the candidates wins the leadership he (as if it matters ) will apologise for the Iraq war to the people of The UK and Iraq .......what and who dos he think "being sorry" will make on today's world of ISIS?? Is he playing to the left wing gallery of Labour, is he just wanting to be leader and will say anything to get it( no he wouldn't,but he is a politician) but looking at what is being blathered on social media ,the united Labour Party is gone to hell in a handcart. Loooking from a distance there is no one person in British politics that stand out against the rest...we might have a split like when S D L whatever of Owen and co back in the 80's....at least with them they were recognised politicians,the current lot ,not being to critical are WHO ?? ....the UK needs  strong political parties that have the policies to implement and lead and at the moment too many lies from both major parties, what we don't need is "pie in sky" lies as we could never afford

August 21, 2015

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August 21, 2015

Bob, where is Micky Mouse when you need him? He at least has never told porkies about anything or anyone. unlike our present group of bum kissers and inveterate liars. We may need to add words to our National Anthem, about "saving us all", the way Labour are going about things. They would not know the truth if it stood up and smacked them all in their meally mouths.

August 22, 2015

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August 22, 2015

truuuuuuuue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

August 23, 2015

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August 23, 2015

As Tonto that famous  Red Indian said about people like Labour and most other politicians, "white man speak with forked tongue" And I am not talking about anyone on this site.... And that one way trip to Mars MUST be overbooked a million times by now.... If only it happens! Can anyone tell me WHY people with NO connection to our country can ever be allowed to come to this country without any controls over them whatsoever? They are not true refugees, since they managed to pay the prices the people smugglers charge for their trip across land and sea. They are "easy life" parasites as far as I am concerned. There are many people like me who would say, there are REAL refugees, but this lot are not in that category. If we could stop Hitler invading this country, why can we not do the same with these people? Let them sort out their own country, and not invade ours, as they are trying to do. Parasites.

September 24, 2015

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September 24, 2015

Just reading the disclosure of our illustrious Prime Dick Head, plus the Daily Mail has it in for him anyway,if half of what being printed is true will he GO ?. The trouble is IT is ,cos they would have David a autographed copy telling him what coming down the street, now thinking on it he would have had one of his Etonian friends bring a case of libel or something trying to stop the disclosures........the knife is being turned and Labour and the Lib Dems both have inexperienced leaders who can't take advantage, now SNP is a different matter that tiger will be screaming "freedom " from the battlements of Edinburgh Castle again,hey hoo what a  great time to  be a tax payer

September 24, 2015

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September 24, 2015

I have also read the abridged extracts from THAT book. I have to say nothing in it will harm Cameron in the slightest. It was written by a "knob head scorned" a man who sought to buy his way into high office. Cameron's obvious defence is he couldn't be bought, ergo the silly book. BUT; let's look at it all dispassionately. Cameron has never denied smoking weed at uni. He has never denied being a member of the Bullingdon Club or his many ex bed partners. He has never been seen taking hard drugs and denies he ever has, the guy who is purported to have the infamous pig's head photo allegedly won't show it to anyone and another neutral person at that party says it's all hogwash (couldn't resist that pun). The fact is Cameron is shown to have been the most caring and compassionate of father's in the way he looked after his now sadly deceased son.  He can't help his wealthy background, he has money, influence, a beautiful and talented wife who adores him, a lovely family, great homes and on top of all that he is the PM having won a seemingly unwinnable election. What's not to get jealous about there!!! And jealousy, vindictiveness and revenge are the reasons for the very puerile book in my opinion. NOW: lest anyone gets the wrong idea: I am no particular Cameron fan. I believe he is the best of a bad bunch and the least worst option. I don't believe he is making a bad job of being PM albeit I believe he has dithered over some crucial decisions and acted too hastily over others. I think he has mad a pig's ear (there's that pig again) of the whole defence review and he has decimated our forces beyond repair. BUT; I am sure labour would have done the same and then some. So; I reiterate my opinion that Cameron will quite easily ride out the media hype apropos the book and the real loser will be the multi millionaire prat who co wrote it!

September 24, 2015

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September 24, 2015

Same sentiments here !!!

September 25, 2015

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September 25, 2015

Not having had a chance to read the "exclusive " story ,and as you say our billionaire friend has spat his "pork scratching " out (sounds better than dummy) and with all the oink jokes in for a piggy in for a government job as you'd say .At least it makes our Dave sound humanish ,will he be a good/great PM let history be the judge as for the armed forces I'm biased he and Labour will/would have decimated them ,at least in 1914 we had a decent Royal Navy and a tiny army ,now it's all gone to hell in a hand cart ,but that could be a porky !!!!!


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