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Brexit Bill
September 1, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 1, 2017

With out a French saying David ,and with the commission demands of as you say a "ridiculous " amount to leave their club ,there is a famous British saying that a certain guy in our history put his "2 fingers up ". The more I see the posturing of the head negotiatiors demands,the more I feel that it's going to make our only option but to walk away . Looking at these commission politicians who are not national so they are there on the whim of the EUROPEAN Union and not the voters ,soft jobs in their twilight years ,and trying to BLACKMAIL the U.K. into paying for upto 7 ( yes 7) years into the future. We in the real world know the figures on Import/Export to EU countries from the U.K. so there would be large problems in the motor industry,agriculture,to mention a few ,with Fox trips around the WORLD making agreements for trade and TM in India/Japan it seems the government is doing what we'd expect. They have a plan for Irelands border ,remembering my time back on the Kilo crossing the controls of this problem will be hard work especially now we might have Direct Rule again thanks to Sinn Fein demands on the Irish language. With only 18 months before Brexit the Commission has to get real or the 2 fingers could be used again .

September 1, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 1, 2017

I personally reckon the Government are planning well for Brexit - Barnier is full of his own importance & trying his best to appear to be the " saviour" of the EU with his ludicrous settlement demands and delaying tactics. He tells us to " get  serious" about negotiating - cheeky sod ! The media and Corbyn are also obstacles, and TM's assertion that " No deal is better than a bad deal", roundly criticised by many at the time, is looking not only a possibility, but the best option. It'll not only save us a fortune, we'll soon be able to get good trade deals, and not only prove to the EU that we will not be bullied or pushed around, but hold our heads up high with British pride. The media and all political Parties should, as when we were last at odds with Europe (WW2), get behind the Government and support them in their aim to pursue the democratic will of the people. John (JKW)

September 2, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 2, 2017

My thoughts too John ,they (EU) keep telling us to get serious BUT all they want is money. Just pass the exit bill through parliament and go and then let them come to us for a trade deal .

September 2, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 2, 2017

We IMPORT 53% of our goods from EU countries. We EXPORT 44% of our goods to EU countries. Nuff said!!

September 11, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 11, 2017

Facebook has now decided that the EU owes 9 and half billion to the United Kingdom and we owe nothing ,mmmm interesting. There is a list of monies that the UK over the years has contributed to said EU Bank for various loans to EU countries during the 2008/10 cock up . Now Mr Barnier might stop demanding that divorce bill payment or am I being given "False" news ????

September 11, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 11, 2017

I don't know how to tell you this Bob but I guess someone has to. The likelihood that the EU will pay us to leave the Union is about as likely as Trump paying any taxes. Lol.  There are 3 certainties in life; taxes, death and a big Brexit bill. The EU has to make the whole concept of any member state leaving it so unpalatable as to make it a non starter for any country contemplating following our example and waiting to see the outcome before making any final decision.  I personally doubt we will arrive at a figure acceptable to both sides without arbitration unless, and I really hope it doesn't happen, the UK capitulates. A 'walk away' scenario sounds attractive on the surface but I absolutely expect the UK will do everything possible to agree fiscal exit terms. I personally believe we do have a commitment to clear a small exit bill, as do the bank of legal and financial experts David Davis has  supporting him. But the figures being bandied around by Barnier et al are just stupidly ridiculous. The real problem is the EU's insistence on an agreed exit bill before trade deals etc are discussed. The more they hold that line the more likely a 'walk away' becomes likely.

September 11, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 11, 2017

I am still of the opinion that you may pay to go into a club, be it golf, night, whites, and most other clubs, and while you are a member there will be a subscription of sorts, ie; a membership fee, but I cannot  be a party to the thought that you pay to leave the the  aforementioned clubs. Yes I know about penalty clauses, but as David said, the figures being bandied about are ridiculous. It should be remembered the  the knife cuts both ways. Now to the pay cap being lifted for the select few, it cannot be more obvious that once again government are attempting to bribe the police and prison officers, perhaps I am being cynical, but both of these organisations will be the first to feel the brunt of things when riots of any sort start, let us see what Wednesday brings. It really does beggar belief that they say there is no magic money tree, I would just like to know when a decision is taken ie; the D U P, £1 billion, and I know it is not nice what is happening ref hurricane Irma but suddenly another £36million is found, mean while the security services in this country have been decimated, the NHS is being starved of money, the nursing profession have 40,000 thousand vacancies for nurses and the rate they leaving at leaves a shortfall of over 500 a week somebody needs to get a grip before the position becomes untenable, there is also a shortfall in recruitment to the Armed Forces, cannot get the staff used to be a joke for inefficiency,  not any more.

September 23, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 23, 2017

Not much to say about TM's speech in Florence on Brexit ,if anything I'm a bit disappointed that there is no " PLAN  B " . Then again TM could be offering €20 billion to get Junkers/ Barnier crowd talking Brexit expectations of the EU , with trade borders people etc . From info coming on Facebook and other social media the WTO tariffs are 4 and half % ,were the EU is 8% ,the EU is only 15% of the world markets ,there is also the old Commonwealth countries being more affluent than 40 odd years ago when Ted Heath dumped them . Yes we need to able to do business with Europe,but if we hadn't voted Brexit we'd be getting ready for a EU armed forces,ditching the pound for the euro,and having Brussels control all our finances with no say on "what or when " on taxation. The government are not on the ball with planning a positive future,too many "Remoaners" in position , too many arguments from the wannabes in Europe,keep the pot boiling trying to have a second referendum. We all know that the United Kingdom has had sterner challenges in our history from the French,Spanish,Germans over the centuries , now we need a leader to take back our sovereignty from Brussels and if need be " GO FOR IT " and let the Socialist European Union fester in its own juices the other side of the channel.

September 25, 2017

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Brexit Bill

September 25, 2017

I do NOT understand how the EU can demand anything from us, so why are we NOT out of the hands of the unelected bunch of morons who supposedly run the EUek? We ow them nothing, Our forebears fought to save not only the UK from Nazi domination, but the very European twits who think they can totally control us, and receive a hefty departure payment for the honour. We owe them nothing. so TM should just tell them to go forth and pick on someone else for a change. Better still, get leader Trump to nuke them.......  THEY owe the UK billions and billions . Moan over, going for a few pints now, before EUck ban us from a little tipple or more....


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