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Christmas has come early forTurkey ,
March 18, 2016

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Christmas has come early forTurkey ,

March 18, 2016

Can I ask what or who gave Turkey this deal with migrants,one in for one out ,and all of us are going to pay Turkey for looking after the migrants they've already got in situ.So European countries have closed their borders not allowing migrants to travel through to Germany, so why can't Turkey stop them too??. Now we have pantomimes in Brussels,EU leaders have now promised Turkey citizens visa free travel within its borders ,dos that mean the UK too ?? If it is the case the referendum can't come soon enough,just imagine what 80 odd million Turks will do , just hope Cameron has a good excuse for this decision, yes folks pantomime time early ,I'm trying to get my head around this ,Turkey have the worst human rights record,they're bombing the shite out of the Kurds or any other group of opposition to this dictator of a president and they're been offered a place  in the future in the EU "...............Christmas pudding anyone??????

March 18, 2016

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Christmas has come early forTurkey ,

March 18, 2016

The pact with the Turks, meaning that visa restrictions for them to enter mainland Europe being waived, is surely yet another mega reason for us voting OUT. 77 million Turkish Muslims, all eligible to travel freely into Europe (& then where !?!) doesn't bear thinking about. What the hell are our EU "Leaders" (I use the term loosely) doing in making such promises ? On the same topic, how demeaning for the British Prime Minister to need to negotiate with EU "leaders" to banish the tampon tax !! For goodness sake, get us OUT, so we can decide our own taxes, laws & human rights. John (JKW)

March 19, 2016

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Christmas has come early forTurkey ,

March 19, 2016

Right again John. The fact is when Turkey applied for EU membership it was under a secular Government, one that was run in the manner Atta Turk, (the modern day Turkey founder), meant it to be. There were no muslim ideologies mixed in with their political policies. That has now all changed and Turkey is no longer the mainly benign euro/asian partner it once was. Those of us who served in BAOR KNOW the number of Turks just waiting for an opportunity to leave their country is enormous. We also know the majority of Turkish immigrants live in enclaves or ghettos and either take on low paid jobs or live off benefits. That isn't a racist comment it is just a fact based on my experience of them. we simply CANNOT remain in the EU if the EU remains unable to do something about this problem. The very IDEA of the EU paying Turkey to take back migrants and ship them to Greece(?) and then have free right of entry to EU countries is as ridiculous and dangerous as Merkel's original "let them all in" policy.How can anyone with half a brain PAY turkey to take perhaps a million Syrian/Iraqi/ Iranian/African/Libyan migrants and THEN swap those for Turkish immigrants??? What's the freaking difference?? They are ALL economic migrants. The Turks who come to the EU countries will be just as much infiltrated by terrorists as those they replace, just as many will use the EU as a stepping stone to the UK. If there was even the remotest chance of the EU showing some leadership on immigration, if we could really believe the EU had our best interests at heart and we had a powerful enough voice in it to preserve our sovereignty and our borders then I might want to give it another chance. As it is I firmly believe our destiny lies elsewhere. It really is time to leave. As for the tampon tax, at the risk of appearing crude , we are currently lead by people who naturally want the tax on them abolished because they represent that part of the human anatomy where such items are most useful!! I know, I know, way too much information! Just having yet another rant!

March 20, 2016

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Christmas has come early forTurkey ,

March 20, 2016

If Muslim and all other middle east citizens are allowed (mainly by order of the United Nations) to travel and live in ANY European country, claiming rights as refugees, then when they arrive, within no more than 2 generations the native European countries will ALL be ruled by Muslims, and white Christians will then be the outcasts. Cameron and all other blinkered "leaders" must tell UN to get lost, we are the native peoples of Europe, NOT the muslims.  Where have all our leaders got their brains, cos they are nowhere near their head... Close the door to all these illegal so called "refugees" and send them back to where they arrived into Europe, and let them return to the country of their ancestors. Cos it ain't anywhere in Western Europe. If all the adult male Middle East "refugees" fought their enemies in the middle east this situation would never have raised its ugly head, but they chose what they THOUGHT was the easy way out by moving to the Western Europe area. We do not want them nor do we need them, we have enough with our own native born white Europeans who have ancestors going back many centuries... we do not deserve to be robbed (cos that is what is happening, believe me). I do however feel sorry for all those travellers who have lost family members in this tragedy, which is NOT of our making. I also blame Tony Blair for being involved in his discredited "weapons of mass destruction" attacks upon Iraq and Syria. He was/still is, a warmonger for little or no reason, who dragged our Armed Forces into action based upon what was a lie. And I must say that I am not anti Muslim, I only want them to stay in their own land of birth, we are almost full in UK right now, and have no more room for any so called refugees of any religion. Greenland has few in population, but is a massive country...... Only saying...    


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