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November 1, 2015

Joined: May 5, 2014
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Compensation ?

November 1, 2015

This Muslim chappie, long suspected by the Americans as a terrorist, & now released and flown back to the UK at huge expense (reputedly £50,000 of tax payers money), apparently will be in line to receive up to £1 million in compensation from the British Government.

If it was the Americans who caught him , the Americans who locked him up for many years, and the Americans who released him  eventually without charge or trial, how come we in the UK can be held in ANY way responsible to pay any compensation ?

Incidentally, despite the stories about his alleged torture & deprivation when incarcerated, the photos of him portrayed in the media recently (in his orange prison garb) show a well fed and happy looking chappie - maybe it was the thought of all that money from the tax of the hard working Brits coming to him !?!

John (JKW)

 

 

November 2, 2015

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 684
Compensation ?

November 2, 2015

From what I have read the UK was allegedly complicit in his incarceration in that some of our own "secret squirrels" visited him whilst he was held captive, interrogated him et al and we, de facto, signed up to his imprisonment, at least in the early years of it. Who knows what Blair really agreed with Bush and his successors I don't think the disgustingly overdue Chilcott Inquiry will ,shed any true light on matters! In law this man should have been arraigned before a court a long time ago. The Americans claim to have enough evidence to convict him of terrorist association at least. His movements and reasons for them, within  Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, during his pre capture time is certainly suspicious and let's not forget he was captured by some very dodgy  Arab bandits who sold him on to the US as an Al Qaida convert. He certainly has some very suspicious circumstances to explain!! The question we have to address is this; is it justifiable to imprison and torture people on suspicion of being terrorists when there is no actual hard evidence, or at least no evidence that will likely hold up in a court of law. On the one hand it could be argued that sometimes, for the greater good, such actions ARE justified. We have witnessed several instances here in the UK in the recent past where we sought to deport suspected terrorist activists and it took us years to do so as our own courts thwarted our efforts to rid ourselves of these cretins. On the other hand, it could be argued, such actions DO contravene the very essence of our legal system and if we play ANY part in such actions we are de facto guilty by association. I personally believe that in the overwhelming majority of cases people simply aren't plucked out of obscurity and accused of being terrorists or terrorist supporters. If the suspicion is strong enough but the hard evidence is missing then I am prepared to support detaining such people; at least till the case is proven one way or the other. It isn't democratic, it isn't fair, it isn't the way the law should work. BUT; neither are the murderous tactics of the terrorists who think we are weak and gullible in our adherence to those ways. This man has a lot of explaining to do. He won't of course. He will deny everything. He will claim he is purely an innocent family man who happened to pack up and leave this country to help others in places where there just happened to be Al Qaida terrorists  present. Just as a previous erstwhile UK detainee did who was also released from Guantanamo and given £1million compensation by the Treasury and promptly them went off to (re) join Al Qaida. The outcome of this matter is a foregone conclusion. This guy will get shedloads of compo. He will get shedloads more money from selling his story. He will "embarrass" the Government and the Government's predecessors. There will be an Inquiry which will take a couple of months, rather than the 7/8/9 years The Chilcott one has taken. Bleeding hearts will castigate and condemn the US, and ourselves for cooperating with them. The SNP and the Lib/Dems will say they opposed anything and everything to do with such matters, Labour will want to stay quiet until they know how much in the firing line they are and then Corbyn will say this case is a rank example as to why we shouldn't have any armed forces in the first place. Democracy is a wonderful concept when everyone plays by the same rules. When only one sides does so it makes a mockery of itself and helps those who would destroy that very concept achieve their aim. Sometimes, in a world beset with murderous fanatics, a world where the law of the gun, the bullet and the bomb prevails difficult decisions have to be taken. Sometimes those decisions, taken for the greater good, will mean a small number of people are denied the protection of the law. I can't help thinking that the vastly overwhelming majority of law abiding citizens will never be in that position and those who are probably have themselves to blame. If it takes a Guantanamo Bay to at least help keep the rest of us safe I will reluctantly have to sign up to such a concept!!

November 2, 2015

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 1204
Compensation ?

November 2, 2015

How did Shakespeare say "to be or not to be " so reading this guys defence he was out there in "injun country doing "charity " work when he was apprehended, (he's a Saudie subject so was Bin Liner) he's married to  a "Brit" so he has been given free UK access for life. Like other detainees who have been released he's inline for a big payout...WHY ??????? Did we send send out to where he was arrested ..NO !!!! Yes the yanks had him locked up for 14 years and didn't charge him ..."so what !!!!!! British intelligence would have been informed as he was travelling on a British passport ..you'd expect that from an ally ....The tree huggers who owe their very existence to men/woman who have defended this country during the last century,yes we have to have " human rights" BUT we also have to defend that right and if he's doing something he shouldn't be doing give him a choice ,yes you and your family can stay in the UK but we will not compensate you for your own actions or ( there's no other way of saying this) you can F/ OFF back to Saudie we don't want you here !!!!!!

November 6, 2015

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 977
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November 6, 2015

David, The only "compo" this and any other enemy of the state should get is to be locked away on a tiny barren islet in the middle of the ocean, well off the beaten track, and then be subject to the "compo" we had when we got it in "5 Man Boxes" from stores. he would soon swap sides to the tree huggers and their hangers on after a mouthful of that.

November 6, 2015

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 977
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November 6, 2015

Or starve to an early death...

December 10, 2015

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 1204
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December 10, 2015

Now a convicted violent murderer is taking the prison he's serving life in ,to court for compensation for having 2 teeth knocked out when 5 prison officers had to restrain him ,even after a police enquiry  which found he got what he deserved for being violent. So the animal who killed a serving soldier on the streets of London wants justice ,he wants money to compensate his pain okay give him it then take it off him and give it to the soldiers widow then put him solitary until the day he dies in jail ......and it's nothing to do with him being black or a Muslim ,it's cos he was given sanctuary in the UK from his African so called hell hole and he shows his gratitude with his friend by first running down and then cutting to pieces an innocent soldier shopping in London ..............let Mr Corbyn try to talk peace with an animal of his ilk

December 10, 2015

Joined: May 5, 2014
Posts: 556
Compensation ?

December 10, 2015

A good post Bob, entirely agree with you. Whoever allowed this compo claim to even be considered for court proceedings , particularly after a police investigation has already found no case to answer, should be made to pay all costs to the tax-payer from their grubby lawyers profits - we always referred to solicitors/ barristers as "paid liars" when I was in HM Prison Service - it's still an apt description I reckon. PS And if Corbyn supported the claim, he should be charged with treason !! John (JKW)

December 11, 2015

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 684
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December 11, 2015

Apparently he lost his teeth after he went berserk and it took several warders to restrain him and in doing so his head came into contact with a window frame. I am pig sick of living in a society where the freaking PC brigade, the tree huggers and the idiotic tosspots hold sway. I was apoplectic when I read of this yesterday, what HAVE we come to when murdering scum, the dregs of society, are allowed to make such a mockery of our judicial system. Where is the judicial filtering process that prohibits vexatious claims such as these being allowed to proceed through our courts when brought by criminals. I KNOW criminals have rights but so do the rest of us, we taxpayers, those of us who didn't stab and butcher an innocent young man in the street simply because he served his country. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.  Sadly I fear things will only get worse. How else can anyone explain why  Corbyn is now the leader of Her Majesty's Opposition,why our armed forces have been so decimated, why the NHS is in such disarray, why 52 radical Scots nationalist MPs can hold sway over English statutes whilst we have no say over theirs, whilst......... the list is sooooooo long so I will end my rant. On a much brighter, note the police have decided not to press charges against Tyson Fury, um,  why would they ever have done so in the first place!! Like I said....the lunatics....


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