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Iraq Fatality Investigations (IFI)
February 24, 2018

Joined: May 12, 2014
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Iraq Fatality Investigations (IFI)

February 24, 2018

Has anyone else been following the press coverage of this Government inspired harassment of troops accused of crimes on the battlefield or whilst on active service? The Daily Telegraph has been following the relentless pursuit of Major Robert Campbell RE. He is a decorated and partially disabled Late Entry Officer who stood accused of complicity in the death by drowning of a 15 year old Iraqi youth 15 years ago. Over the past 15 years or so, he has faced 7 inquiries or investigations and has been cleared of any wrongdoing by each and every one of them. Now he has been ordered to face an 8th investigation by the IFI. The IFI was established in the wake of the series of successful court victories set up by the ‘human rights’ lawyer Phil Shiner now debarred and struck off for dishonesty. Let’s not even delve into the very latest revelations by the Iraqi legal guy who recently confessed he was charged with gathering and instigating false claims and setting troops up with allegations of abuse and assault during and after the war. Broken almost, by the relentless harassment and abject lack of MOD or Government  support, Robert Campbell says he is leaving Headley Court with nothing more than two hearing aids and a disabled badge for his car. He recently returned his medals to Buckingham Palace in protest at his harassment and received a ‘touching reply’. Two weeks before being saddled with the news of the latest IFI inquiry Major Campbell was sent his LS&GC which he is also returning. He is so distressed by this latest bombshell that he is now leaving the army.  Robert Campbell is not alone in facing this ignominious treatment and I despair of the false promises made by this Government to safeguard our troops from such abominable harassment. The military covenant is a worthless piece of PR garbage, politicians are spineless cowards who send our troops to war and then abandon them. Even Wellington looked after his troops with more compassion and understanding. Lots of MPs are protesting, some are disgusted but nothing can be done because ‘ the IFI complies with the MOD’s legal obligations’. The MOD further states it ensures no soldiers are ‘inconvenienced by the IFI process’. What rank hypocrisy, what a bag of lies. How come we alone, as a nation, subject our service folk to these relentless investigations, how come we alone insist in pursuing serving and ex serving soldiers who have been previously cleared in courts of law and other inquiries for the same matters? The final desperately sad and damning indictment of it all is the undoubted truth that under Labour it would be even worse. Would any member of this site actually recommend a career in the army now to one of their own? I certainly would not. I abjectly despise the politicians of all political persuasions who allow these travesties to persist, those cowardly cretins, safe in their expense laden seats of power, who sit back whilst the lives of  brave souls are destroyed by the same morons who sent them to fight their wars. Of course bona vide allegations of war crimes have to be investigated. But it seems that only servicemen and women can be subjected to a continuous and relentless series of hearings and investigations by an array of different Government bodies, each of which find no guilt, no case to answer and no evidence to suggest any wrongdoing. No civilian would be subjected to that treatment. This isn’t the law in action, it is a despicable travesty of justice. Angry? Me? You bet I am.

February 24, 2018

Joined: May 8, 2014
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Iraq Fatality Investigations (IFI)

February 24, 2018

David I read the article in the Times today on a) handing back his decorations to the Queen b) his retirement from the army. The amazing thing about this "so called" death in Iraq is that he's been investigated 9 times by various organisations since 2003 and has been cleared of any criminal offence. The lawyers who bringing this to fruition are being a massive sum £100million by the MOD ,then the lead guy Phil Shiner has been struck off for misconduct after bringing dishonest claims against soldiers who served in Iraq . Enough is enough,war brings death ( just look at Syria now) ,we as a country have to back our lads in uniform for their actions in war . The buck stops at number 10 ,if they want to with the RIGHT leadership should have squashed these inquiries in the bud ,after all they ( politicians) sent our military in harms way .

February 24, 2018

Joined: May 5, 2014
Posts: 786
Iraq Fatality Investigations (IFI)

February 24, 2018

Until yesterdays Telegraph article, I hadn't realised Major Campbell RE had been the subject of seven previous inquiries / investigations, had been cleared of any wrong doing by them all, but was now being subjected to yet another, this time by the IFI, some 15 years after the first attempts to besmirch his name. It makes my blood boil, to see the financial support the IFA lawyers are being given by the UK Government to pursue these "claims", whilst at the same time seeming to hang Major Campbell out to dry despite his obvious loyal service to the Crown. Sadly, there are too few (if any) former Servicemen or women amongst the ranks of our politicians (Corbyn's dalliance with Czech spies doesn't count), and therefore they have no understanding of what it must be like to face an armed enemy and the consequences thereof. We need a REAL leader in our politics, someone who has the backbone to stand up to the PC Brigade and support those who they sent into conflict yet who  now seem to fail them  in their hour of need - for goodness' sake Prime Minister, squash this latest witch hunt and show your support for our Armed Forces. John (JKW)

February 24, 2018

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 936
Iraq Fatality Investigations (IFI)

February 24, 2018

The ineptitude and the rank cowardice of ministers who actually DO have the power to stop these witch hunts is breathtaking. There are two other former soldiers implicated along with Robert Campbell, one of whom has attempted suicide as a result of the persecution he has faced. NO other nation allows their troops to face these ordeals. America wouldn’t countenance any such trial by ordeal of its troops and would stick two fingers up to any quasi judicial body demanding it to do so. And to add insult to injury the Government and the MOD wonders why so many first class soldiers, across the ranks, are leaving early. The treatment of our armed forces across the board is almost criminally bad. Married quarters left in ruins with families without heating, suffering leaky roofs etc because of a failure by the civilian contractor to meet its contractual requirements.  Troops in barracks in freezing, sometimes almost medieval billets, no shower facilities or hot water. Severe undermanning in many regiments and units due to inept and woefully inadequate recruiting. Persecution of former servicemen and women from NI tours, Iraq etc. A lack of support for soldiers with health problems resultant from  combat after they leave the army. Pathetic, almost non existent, mental health support for combat induced trauma and long term psychiatric needs. The non existent but much heralded military covenant. The unnaturally high percentage of former servicemen and women amongst the nation’s genuine homeless population. And all of this on the back of a now 5 (?) year effective pay freeze. Every few weeks another sad story of really poor treatment for our armed forces emerges. It’s only when you stop and draw breath, put them all together and look at the whole picture that the extent of the issue becomes apparent. It isn’t edifying at all. It’s sad, it’s unfair and it is a disgrace, in my opinion. Seems the Bundeswehr isn’t doing much better either, according to recent German  press reports. They  apparently have less than 60% of the servicable tanks they need and sent one MBT into a NATO exercise recently with a broomstick in place of its main armament.

February 27, 2018

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 264
Iraq Fatality Investigations (IFI)

February 27, 2018

at the moment I am on blood pressure tablets, that are not doing their job, every time I read or hear about these snivelling, lying , politicians and the MOD civil servants my hatred yes hatred of these people, they should all be employed by the football clubs, they are so adept at moving the goalposts and shirking responsibility, it would seem to all intents and purposes the military covenant is dead and buried although the word COVEN in this,  refers if I am not mistaken to a group of witches, therefore it is perhaps time to bring back those punishments for these prolific liars, I refer of course to the ducking stool, give them a no win situation burn if you do, drown if you don't. I see corbyn has been referred to the London underground  lost property office, for the excuse of a back bone he has lost.


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