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July 9, 2015

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Its all Greek to me

July 9, 2015

So now we've had the people vote,the politicians are talking,(as usual) nothing is on the table (except another expensive dinner) and guess who going to pick up the tab, yes you got it you/me one way or another they the Greeks are going to get the rest of the EU to pay for it. Whats the answer to this f### up ,Goldman Sachs fiddled the books to get them into the euro ,so they need closing down like that US bank Lemans or a big big fine for being so corrupt ....but as you know nothing going to happen.....they'll just kick it down the road for another day.....

July 10, 2015

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July 10, 2015

Bob; there will be NO Greek exit, it would signal the beginning of the end of the Euro, THAT will not happen. The whole issue will be fudged again. The Greeks will promise to start collecting taxes, stop paying out large state pensions to half the population at the age of 50, stop being corrupt et al and in return they will receive a 3 year bailout plan. Then the whole saga will begin  again.

July 10, 2015

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July 10, 2015

David, there I was wondering if my crystal balls were working overtime, and as you stated they have now said all of the above FUDGE FUDGE & more FUDGE ...it seams they are going to bring in outside agencies to do the tax bits etc.....but the Germans will have to fork out more euros and kick the can down the street for another time

July 22, 2015

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July 22, 2015

So they have another vote today and this is the iffy one ,changing the age on retiring (down to 25)(joking)this is for 86million oops Billion.Reading between the lines the Greeks are going to go tits up I can't see them passing all the things the troika want let alone the IMF .

July 22, 2015

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July 22, 2015

An even worse thought than Greece and the Euro loan they want is the fact that in all of this rattle out of pram rubbish, there is a group of senior EU politicos suggesting that an "Inner Core" of the senior members of the EU should form the Upper House of a restructured EU. This of course will mean that UK will be relegated to the 5th or 6th division of such a setup, ( the continentals would enjoy that ) and therefore have no say in the running of the EU. This is now the time to tell the EU we are leaving their moronic society if that is their plan. Full Stop. No giving way by UK, and  the determination to go back to being our own boss. Whatever the cost.

July 22, 2015

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July 22, 2015

Maybe this explains why they are in "Cack Strasse" !! A long, but worthwhile read about Greek economics :

I don't know from where this report originates, so read it and decide on its veracity for yourself.
 

Are you wondering why Greece is basically a bankrupt country, having to live off continual handouts, and why there are now street demonstrations against changes which will affect their way of life, then read on..........

 

Experts mandated by the European Union to investigate the causes that led Greece to the current  economic situation related the following facts: Greece falsified its  accounts to enter the euro zone and has distorted the facts until the economy finally imploded. There were massive retirements allowed at the age of 50 years.  At  Evangelismos hospital  there are 50 drivers for six official cars, and in the town square there are 45 gardeners employed to tend a small lawn with 4 bushes. Greece has by far the highest population in the world of people reporting an age of 110 years, and more. The  deaths are often not registered and pensions continue to be received.  The European Union had found that on average there are families receiving 4 to 5 monthly pensions which they are not entitled to. There were still pensions being paid to persons who died in 1953, over 60 years ago. Some 40,000 girls receive a monthly life pension of 1,000 euros for the simple fact that  they were unmarried daughters of deceased civil servants. This, at a cost to the state coffers of €550 million euros per year. Now they will receive pensions only up to the age of 18. Pacemakers in Greek  hospitals were acquired at a price 400 times higher than in a British hospital. In Greece, many workers have benefited from early retirement, set at 50 years for women and 55 for men who belong to one of the 600 job categories identified as being particularly painful, among which are included; - Hairdressers (because of dyes that may be considered harmful) - The musicians of wind instruments (blowing into a flute is exhausting) - TV presenters (the microphones are supposed to cause damage to health). **** This law was adopted by the Socialist government of 1978. There are thousands of ridiculous "trick" departments and unnecessary institutions, which many Greeks live off. For example, The Institute for the Protection of Kopais Lake, a dry lake since 1930. In the last decade, Greece has created over 300 new public companies, employing tens of thousands of people. Tax evasion is massive, over 28% of Greeks have never paid a penny on personal income tax. In addition, the weight of the public sector in the economy is overwhelming. There are about one million officials to four million active people. Greek public railways: The average salary of employees exceeds €66.000.- per year. And this includes toilet cleaners and other non-skilled workers. The (almost free)  Athens Metro issues about 90 million tickets a year, while the total cost of this public company needs ticket sales of more than 500 million to break even. French retirees receive, on average, 51% of the last salary, the Germans 40%, North Americans and Japanese 34%. Meanwhile, Greek pensioners receive 96% of their salary - and much earlier! Greece has four times more teachers than Finland, (the best situated country in the last PISA report), while the student performance in Greece is the lowest among any European country by comparison. AS  AN APPARENT SHOW OF GOODWILL TO THE EU, THE GREEK GOVERNMENT UNDER PRESSURE, ELIMINATED  10,000 POSITIONS IN THEIR POSTAL SERVICE, OF WHICH 8,200 WERE FOUND TO BE FALSE IDENTITIES.!!    

 

This is extortion on a grand scale - how many more years will this be allowed? Little wonder the French and Germans are not happy about letting this situation continue  - mainly at their expense.                                                           

July 23, 2015

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July 23, 2015

JK, I bet the EU bosses will try to justify this incriminating information as a "scaremongering" bouquet of lies by the disaffected civilian population members of the EU, and you can bet your bottom dollar that our leaders will have documents to verify that this document which JKW has presented to us today is a massive and untrue lie, and our leaders would  know, since they tell TRUE lies to you and I by the million per second. If THEY ever tell the TRUE truth, the universe would explode in disbelief. ORF with their heads!!!!  The world would applaud if we ever get an apology for permanently lying from our blessed leaders. Well done John, you have uncovered the TRUE truth!!!

July 23, 2015

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Posts: 977
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July 23, 2015

PS: Can I please have a fully paid for trip to Greece this evening, to take up one of the 105,000,203 unfilled jobs in the Greek parliamentary first class toilet(which serves one fully paid up Greek job evader) before the Martians hear about it???


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