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August 16, 2016

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Motorway Madness

August 16, 2016

So, today I had  an urgent reason to use the M180 which is accessible via a junction only 2 miles from our village. My planned journey will take little more than 40 minutes. We set off at noon and the tailback surrounding the two roundabouts that lead to the access junction tell their own story. Right enough the slip road onto the M180 is blocked by police vehicles. A quick check on social media informs us that an accident has happened involving 3 cars and a lorry. The lorry engine had caught fire so the entire westbound section of the motorway between two junctions was blocked. We made a long detour that circumvented the motorway to get to where we were going and returned some 3 hours later. In the meantime we looked at pictures on the Internet of the accident which showed the lorry fire extinguished and the vehicles off the motorway on the hard shoulder. Only the lorry driver was injured and he had gone to hospital. As we neared the opposite end of the M180 to come home we saw it was still closed. The only other viable route home was gridlocked for some 20 miles as all the normal motorway traffic had been forced to use it. A 40 minute journey took us almost 3 hours. Highways England said they hoped to reopen the M180 sometime after midnight tonight. What on earth are we doing? How in the good Lord's name can such a relatively minor accident close such a busy arterial motorway for 12 hours or more? No massive multi collision this, no one killed, one injury, one relatively small vehicle fire, plenty and I mean plenty of space to clear the vehicles from the carriageway yet still that old English madness prevailed, keep the motorway closed for as long as possible to inconvenience as many people as possible. Why do we allow this to happen? On the continent the police seem to get roads open after an accident within a very short timeframe. All we seem to do is get as many people as possible to draw chalk lines on the road, take hundreds of measurements and generally pee people off. Well they succeeded, I am thoroughly peed off!!

 

August 17, 2016

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August 17, 2016

David you have raised a good point ,but I'm going to be devils advocate ,if they hadnt reduced the police numbers in country by 20 k  then maybe they could clear the backlog ? instead of an agency we had local council clear the after math of vehicle bits ? today's families have multiple cars on the drive ?  as old A roads are being maintained to pot hole standard no body use them ?  then there is the quality of UK driving , the times I've driven and had a foreign reg truck/car cut me off or sit in the middle lane doing  50 ish causing the majority of accidents , add in the fact that even the smallest car on the road today can break the SPEED limits set then add a MOBILE PHONE  completing a journey on the roads today is a lottery . But you are right the continentles can show the UK a thing or two on maintaining the flow of traffic on the roads , you are lucky compared to the state I live in the Guarda have 10 year old Fords to patrol here ,last weekend we had 11 deaths all single car accidents all down to SPEED and all under 30 . My oldest grandson just passed his driving test in Germany ,as you know that the Germans have to go through a state recognised school program ,so they are properly trained when let loose behind the wheel , maybe we could impose such a system but it's down to money .  Anyway who said driving gave you the freedom of the road they have to drive in today's conditions , stiff upper lip and loose flabby chin comes to mind .

August 17, 2016

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Motorway Madness

August 17, 2016

I have now seen the webcam video of the crash. A crane lorry crashed into the back of another HGV stopped on the hard shoulder. My whinge is, why does that necessitate a 12 hour motorway closure BOTH ways? Police were at the scene quickly. There were 6 police in 3 patrol cars at the scene, another 2 patrol cars with 2 police officers each at the access and egress to the motorway. Police numbers was not the issue. What could possibly cause such a lengthy closure when only 3 vehicles were involved, one small engine fire and one person required hospital treatment AND most of the event happened on the hard shoulder! My next door neighbour's son and German daughter in law are visiting from Lippstadt at present they simply can't believe how we deal with such accidents. Accident investigation officers need only view the footage I have seen to understand exactly what happened, it is absolutely clear cut. The fire was apparently quickly extinguished, the injured driver taken to the nearby hospital and, there is a major recovery service just a couple of miles from the incident site. There can be no justification for how long it takes our emergency services to clear a relatively minor accident and reopen the motorway no other country I have visited takes anywhere near that long.

August 17, 2016

Joined: May 14, 2014
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August 17, 2016

Put it all down to the fact that UK Ltd have cut costs so much now that instead of having enough support/recovery/nursing staff/ doctors and specialists/ in all our emergency services, we are having to cope with this sort of problem only getting worse. We should stop all aid to other countries until we sort out this mayhem, and then once it is working properly, we can re-start thinking about all our other problems.

August 17, 2016

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August 17, 2016

Tom we have major problems here too ,example 3 days on a trolley at A&E, 35/45 minutes for an ambulance on a 999 call out , most of the rural Guarda stations closed ( even when open you spoke thro a radio device as the Guard was either off duty or somewhere else in the county ) money money

August 18, 2016

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Posts: 977
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August 18, 2016

I blame it all on the Russians,, (they MUST be involved in some way, it is how they live...)

August 30, 2016

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August 30, 2016

My usual visit to Liverpool today to visit elderly Ma in Law - on approaching Runcorn, a massive tail back of traffic due to literally 3 miles of cones blocking off one lane FOR NO APPARENT reason. Not a workman in sight, not even a grass cutter, no holes dug, just miles of  bl**dy cones. Those cones continued towards Widnes, but a new set was installed from the slip road right across the Runcorn Bridge itself, again causing traffic mayhem, and again, without ANY reason for them being there ! I know it's giving someone a job, but hellfire, they'd be better employed litter picking than laying cones that serve no purpose whatsoever other than frustrating motorists - Grrrr. John (JKW)

August 31, 2016

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August 31, 2016

Now come on John, you should know by now that motorways were always intended to really be the parking lot for each and every red and white motorway cone in the world. Why else would they build miles and miles of motorway if it was not for parking all these cones?? Next they will be sending all the cats eyes there as well, so watch out!! They call them "motorways" to confuse us rational people, something to do with their genes (jeans??).... or something. "The truth is out there Somewhere" as a US series said ages ago... (All said tongue in cheek!!) Good grief, we can now expect invasions from other useless items to descend upon all our motorways now...


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