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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!
June 23, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 23, 2015

Two of the husbands, of the 3 women who have taken their kids to Syria to join up with a jihadist brother of one of them, blame the Government and the Police for their defection. Grrrr, I get so angry when I read that sort of rubbish!! This latest defection was, almost inevitably, swiftly followed by the recriminations of those who blame society, the Government, the Police, the western world in general for the radicalisation of young British Muslims!! Anyone but the defectors themselves or their families, some of whom MUST have known what was being planned. The story apropos the young Muslim guy (17) who blew himself up with a suicide bomb followed the same pattern. Cameron tells the Muslim communities to wake up and smell the coffee, to not tacitly condone what is going on by staying silent or not taking active steps to stop it and that bastion of Muslim virtue Baroness Warsi publicly slates him for it. Well I slate him as well, for NOT BEING MORE BLUNT. We are moribund, gagged by political correctness, many people are frightened to speak their minds for fear of  being prosecuted for racism, for causing offence or whatever. We have eroded the bedrock of our democratic right to free speech with petty laws that were designed to stamp out REAL racism laws that have been hi jacked by the PC mob!

How is Cameron or the police to blame for 3 stupidly naive women dragging their innocent kids into a war zone out of some ridiculous ideological, but wholly irrational thinking? The women only went to Syria on their way back from Pakistan or some other such place!! These 2 husbands have got lawyers making claims on their behalf!! It makes my blood boil!! Almost as bad as the Imam (?) recently convicted of preaching violence who was allowed to be excused wearing a tag because it offended his human rights!! I CANNOT be alone in believing the lunatics have taken over the asylum!!

 

June 23, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 23, 2015

David nice to read your accurate description of the going on in Bradford.....these husbands being ''Muslims'' do not allow their wife/woman to fart without their permission ,the fact beggers belief  that didn't KNOW... Can you imagine ''oh honey off to Tesco via Syria to do some shopping see you in a couple of hours  ''....I would take odds that they are still claiming ''child allowance'' for these kids in Syria.... P C is  fu##ing  things up and as far as ''human rights'' you have to prove you a member of it first (human race that is )

June 23, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 23, 2015

Blood boils is right !! Why oh why are we in this country so bothered about them going to Syria, wasting scarce resources in a) trying to discover WHY they went,  b) via which countries they passed through, & c) attempting to stop further "escapes" ? West Yorkshire Police were quoted as saying "We're trying everything to trace them & get them back"- WHY ??? Let 'em ALL go I say, & the very second it's confirmed they've gone, STOP ALL BENEFITS they're still claiming, and cancel their passports so they can't come back, EVER. We should be ENCOURAGING all Muslims to leave our shores & go back to where they can really follow their religion in their natural habitat. With regards all those coming from Libya, when one was asked "Why the UK ?", I heard him reply "Food, money & a house" - we must be the laughing stock of the world. These people are being encouraged to come to Europe by our efforts to "rescue" them, completing the journey for them in relative security. A simple solution, radical I know, would be to sink a couple of their boats as they approach - it would only require a one or two to go down & the message would get back, "Better not try that eh", but spoken in Arabic of course. No doubt the Lib/Dums wouldn't approve of this idea, but at the very least, force any boats to go back, & any rescued "returned to sender". The problem for Europe is reaching catastrophic proportions now with this massive influx of illegals - we are not helping the situation by encouraging it in any shape or form. Politicians must stand up & be firm - our very existence as a nation is threatened by this insidious "takeover" of  our way of life, soon there'll be enough Muslims to vote in their Government, and our "democracy" will have back fired on us in spectacular fashion. Incidentally, about 15 miles from where I live there are huge swathes of Muslims living in "enclaves", all dressed accordingly of course, who control the Stoke on Trent Council - they recently passed a resolution to build a massive new Mosque there, paying £1 for the land !!!!  The mind boggles, & I fear for this country of ours unless our Christian values become more radicalised too. JKW

June 23, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 23, 2015

Blood boils is right !! Why oh why are we in this country so bothered about them going to Syria, wasting scarce resources in a) trying to discover WHY they went,  b) via which countries they passed through, & c) attempting to stop further "escapes" ? West Yorkshire Police were quoted as saying "We're trying everything to trace them & get them back"- WHY ??? Let 'em ALL go I say, & the very second it's confirmed they've gone, STOP ALL BENEFITS they're still claiming, and cancel their passports so they can't come back, EVER. We should be ENCOURAGING all Muslims to leave our shores & go back to where they can really follow their religion in their natural habitat. With regards all those coming from Libya, when one was asked "Why the UK ?", I heard him reply "Food, money & a house" - we must be the laughing stock of the world. These people are being encouraged to come to Europe by our efforts to "rescue" them, completing the journey for them in relative security. A simple solution, radical I know, would be to sink a couple of their boats as they approach - it would only require a one or two to go down & the message would get back, "Better not try that eh", but spoken in Arabic of course. No doubt the Lib/Dums wouldn't approve of this idea, but at the very least, force any boats to go back, & any rescued "returned to sender". The problem for Europe is reaching catastrophic proportions now with this massive influx of illegals - we are not helping the situation by encouraging it in any shape or form. Politicians must stand up & be firm - our very existence as a nation is threatened by this insidious "takeover" of  our way of life, soon there'll be enough Muslims to vote in their Government, and our "democracy" will have back fired on us in spectacular fashion. Incidentally, about 15 miles from where I live there are huge swathes of Muslims living in "enclaves", all dressed accordingly of course, who control the Stoke on Trent Council - they recently passed a resolution to build a massive new Mosque there, paying £1 for the land !!!!  The mind boggles, & I fear for this country of ours unless our Christian values become more radicalised too. JKW

June 24, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 24, 2015

Dave mentioned the ludicrous situation that resulted in a suspect terrorist having his electronic tag removed because it was a breach of his Human Rights. His lawyer told the judge his client thought it was a bomb that could be detonated at will by MI5. The bloody judge believed him.  I have got a very simple solution should that excuse ever be used again.  No problem we will respect your Human Rights and remove your tag and but given we have sufficuent evidence to suspect your involvement in terrorist activity we will hold you in custody on remand.   Wee Frankie

June 24, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 24, 2015

Human Rights....................has a lot to answer for ,so John had a good idea ( which I mentioned on the news post)....but who will pay for the ammo.....I relise that UK has the streets paved in gold and monies are flowing out every nook and cranny ,my question ''Why the UK'' as they (migrants) travel through most of the so called ''Rich'' countries to get to the UK......I think only France has the multi --ethnic races that the UK has now as Paris like parts of the UK ( London,Bradford,Rochdale etc) try and find a white face on the bus/tram....could sort it out by stopping tented camps from being set up and putting troops on the ground ,maybe shooting the odd one (JKW) might help too.I'm glad I'm not a HGV driver anymore !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

June 24, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 24, 2015

By 2050 Germany will be a Muslim state based on the fact that the Turkish immigrants have an average of 8 children per family whereas Germans have 1.6 children per family which is insufficient even to maintain the current population. Ghadafi always said there was no need to invade Europe-the sheer numbers being born will do that. As nasty as the Middle Eastern dictators were what has replaced them, IS, is infinitely worse. Putin seems to have had it correct in his backing of Assad in Syria. JKW the blood is boiling-you have double tapped again!

June 24, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 24, 2015

Freddy is absolutely correct apropos Germany. I have only recently returned from there having spent some time in Muenster, I was also there a lot last year. The Eastern states of the country are up in arms about the Islamisation of whole sectors of Germany, these are middle class, hard working people who are hitting the streets in protest not the trendy lefties pervading our streets moaning about austerity cuts. Merkel is entirely dismissive of them all calling them racists and xenophobes and made a public appeal to her Volk NOT to emulate the eastern state protesters. Those of us who served in BAOR in the 60s and 70s will recall the German Government shipping "!Gastarbeitern" in by the the thousands to fill the dirty jobs the Germans had no desire to undertake. In the early years many Turkish gastarbeitern took advantage of the tax concession that paid them back almost ALL the taxes they had paid whilst employed in Germany on EXIT back to Turkey. As time went on more and more Turks realized nothing that awaited them in Turkey could compare to their lives in Germany and began to put down roots mostly in the industrial areas where the "dirty jobs" had employed them, Today, whole sectors of many German cities are Turkish ghettos, Berlin, Muenster, Koeln, Stuttgart et al. Germany has a much more liberal take  on immigration because their Parliament is a multi party coalition with the Greens and Liberals holding enough seats to make a difference. There is however growing dissent amongst the people against such liberalisation As an aside, the Mayor of Calais is now calling for us to be thrown out of the EU for not paying part of their bill for dealing with the thousands of illegal immigrants camped there and for not signing up to the Schengen Agreement which as you all know is the open border policy of all other EU states. Merde! Frappe moi rose! Je suis malade comme une Parrot! I am no pessimist or harbinger of doom BUT it WILL all end in tears because those who are our masters will only realize the dangers we face when it is too late. Too late may well be now!  

June 24, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 24, 2015

Freddie - "Double tapped" - now there's an idea to solve the problem, double tap (SAS policy) 'em all !! JKW    

June 25, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 25, 2015

JKW you picked up on my 'double entendre'. Did anyone ever get to fire their Webley 38? According to google they were taken out of service in 1963 but nobody told 3DG! There is a picture of Michael Caine brandishing his revolver in Zulu so a well proven weapon at least. To the subject. Some years ago three illegal immigrants were found on a lorry just arrived on the ferry at Newhaven. Being a Sunday there was a single immigration officer on duty so all he could do was give them money for the train fare and told them to get off at Gatwick and report to the holding centre there for illegals. Apparently they never arrived!!

June 25, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 25, 2015

Freddie .....little George Doswell who drove C Sqns dozer tank ( old Mk3 with the lever) personal weapon on my first Soltau  May 63 had a .38 pistol  ,oh happy days.

June 25, 2015

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Muslims defection To Syria Is Our Fault Apparently!

June 25, 2015

When we stationed in NI at Long Kesh (The Maze) I was in Area G troop under Major David Le Seuer. Part of my job was liaison with the UDR. One evening I was at a VCP  with a UDR detachment from Newtownards. During a lull in the evening's activities I noticed a well spoken UDR Cpl with a Webley .38 revolver on his hip.  He proudly showed me how it worked (????) and regaled me with a trick he had planned to amuse his colleagues. He was to remove a round at 12 o;clock and pretend to play Russian roulette. I'm sure I recollect dissuading him of the idea, then again.....!


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