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Phil Neville
January 24, 2018

Joined: May 5, 2014
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Phil Neville

January 24, 2018

Not exactly a fan of the guy, after all, he played for the two teams I hate the most, but the current palaver about a Tweet he posted 6 (yes, SIX) years ago is political correctness, gender equality etc, that has  gone completely overboard. All he said in the initial Tweet was "Morning men", & when reminded that females are interested too, he responded with, basically, " thought the women at this time of day would be getting breakfast for the kids or making the beds - morning, women". That's now been labelled "sexist", and at least one campaign group "Kick It Out" want him sacked from the job as England Ladies Football Manager he only started today !

The pillock (I'm being overly polite here) who trawled through 6 years of Tweets in an effort to dig up dirt on the fella wants to get a real job, and Sky want to find a more worthwhile scoop to devote their many hours too - pathetic news reporting IMO.

When the story broke, & then the  resultant media non stop coverage, I thought "Stop the world, I want to get off".

John (JKW)

January 25, 2018

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 751
Phil Neville

January 25, 2018

My understanding of it is he never applied for the job but was asked to take it on after they looked at the list of applicants. I might have misheard that but I’m sure that’s what was reported. Anyway, this recent demonising of all men, this Spanish  Inquisition of any man who ascends to a position of power in preference to a female is becoming a farce. Worse than that, this nonsensical hounding of men by trawling through the minutiae of every facet of their lives since the year dot serves the women’s equality movement badly and makes a nonsense of it all. I do believe that women should be paid the same as any man doing the same job. Like most other men I know, I also strongly believe that sexually intimidating women, sexually harassing them or worse is appalling and needs to be stamped out. Dredging  up quite laughably, perhaps dated but innocuous, mildly sexist language isn’t, however, doing the women’s equality cause any favours whatsoever. Like many others on this site, I grew up in an era of male dominance in the workplace, an era where women were considered best suited to the kitchen and raising children. Over the years I have learned that some of the language and terminology we routinely used is now no longer acceptable. But there is a world of difference twixt off the cuff, innocuous remarks such as those attributed to Phil Neville and the sort of sexist language and behaviour displayed by others recently making the headlines. I would have thought the media in particular would have learned the lessons of the post Saville saga but it seems not to be the case. The recent Hollywood sex scandals that gave rise to the latest global “all men are monsters” movement seems to have spawned another wave of  professional death by media coverage. Apropos of which, I read that Great Ormond Street Children’s Hospital is returning nearly £560:000 worth of charitable donations from the proceeds  of the President’s Club Gala because of it being a men only club and reports that some  of the women hired (and very well paid) to serve them drinks, were groped, fondled and propositioned. Hmm, call me a male chauvinist but to my mind that is a purely futile gesture of appeasement and grandstanding in the media. I don’t think those children who could have been helped by that money would understand or care where it came from and the groping of a few women who KNEW the sort of evening and clientele they were hired to entertain doesn’t warrant the return of such a large sum donated to help those children. In my opinion. So, John, I agree the world has gone mad.


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