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They can’t be serious????
April 7, 2017

Joined: May 12, 2014
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They can’t be serious????

April 7, 2017

I am forever sceptical about western powers' involvement in ME wars. History tells us it is usually a lose/lose outcome. Syria is not quite such a straight forward issue however. Consider this. Putin has capitalised on the West's(righteous) reluctance to become embroiled in further conflicts within the Arab nations after the debacles in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. During Obama's latter years of presidency the US adopted a much more reticent approach to playing its traditional 'global peacekeeper or defender of the underdog' roles. Truth be told Obama recognised the lack of appetite folk had for more lost American lives, more $billions being spent for no discernible improvement in the situations being interfered in etc etc. Britain was exactly the same. Enough is enough. We went into two large scale conflicts without even the vestiges of a post war plan, no idea of the internal politics or ideologies we were dismantling  and not the faintest idea of what we really expected  to achieve. BUT and it is a big BUT, Putin has seized on the West's more recent inertia  to spread his wings. He is harassing Ukraine, he has annexed The Crimea, he is looking to expand Russian influence in the Baltics and he is the main reason Assad feels able to flout the Geneva Convention, disregard international laws on chemical weapons and commit mass murder of innocent civilians. Assad will have been assured by Putin that the West would not react militarily. Add into the witches' cauldron the idea that Trump was Putin's new found friend and the result was plain to see. Assad would flex his muscles confident he could do so without fear of recourse. Wrong. Putin and Assad made a basic error. They judged Trump to be like most other recent presidents. They thought he would not risk an escalation of conflict by a military reaction, they thought he would wait to see the outcome of investigations before undertaking any action, they thought they could fudge things and blur the facts. They thought wrong. Trump reacts to events as they happen, he has no great in depth ideology, no structured thought process. He reacts to what he sees or reads as it unfolds. Today's friend can quickly become tomorrow's enemy at the stroke of Trump's pen. Trump changes his mind as quickly as he does his wives. His missile strikes against Assad's airbase will likely be a one off ' don't push me too far' reaction but it is probably called for and just. It will also send a much needed signal to Putin that he doesn't have 'carte blanche' to re-establish another USSR which seems to be his dream.      

April 7, 2017

Joined: May 5, 2014
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They can’t be serious????

April 7, 2017

I don't believe for one minute that Trump would have authorised the missile attack on the Syrian airbase without concrete proof that Assad was responsible for the gas attack, therefore, in my mind, I applaud his decisive action. I bet Putin got as much as a shock as Assad did ! To give Trump credit, he at least kept his promise over the "crossing the red line" policy. With regards the UK's involvement, no way Hose, we must not get involved in any Middle Eastern conflicts because a) it's not our problem to sort out, & b), we've not the resources to make any significant impact anyway. John (JKW)

April 10, 2017

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 977
They can’t be serious????

April 10, 2017

But just in case we DO get involved, I have replaced the elastic on my catapult with long distance extra strong stuff so it car get as far as the French coast, or even Germany.......(but still doing extra mods,,,)

April 11, 2017

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 1205
They can’t be serious????

April 11, 2017

Tom our local € euro shop has a great selection of elastic bands

April 11, 2017

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 977
They can’t be serious????

April 11, 2017

Bob, I am NOT looking for music my good friend, but thanks for the info anyway!!! Ho! Ho! But I am looking for a non destructable anti nuclear bomb shelter if you have an idea where I can find one...... I have broken my shovel, anti nuke, modification 5/2billion updates/ no chance) if you know anything??

April 11, 2017

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April 11, 2017

Tom if you remember "Anderson " shelters were good enough for our parents ,and they are fairly easy to build.

April 13, 2017

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April 13, 2017

Yeah, as a youngster in the Durham area during the War No 2, we had an anderson shelter put in the back garden, but Grandma and Grandad said it would not save us, so we did what Grandma said, and got under the kitchen table, (and we (small kids at the time) are still around......... And a yank bomber in 1944 gave us a Christmas treat on Xmas Eve, when they put coloured lights all over their bomber, and flew round and round the NE of England on Christmas Eve 1944. GREAT. I was 3 at the time, but still remember it!!! Then we moved to Scouseland after the war. (And nobody in USAF were charged for misuse of military hardware typical Yank derring do 1944 style!!!!)


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