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What the score with the Scottish
June 10, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 10, 2015

I have have some great friends who are Scottish,in fact from every country in our United Kingdom . You don't get to my age without making friends or enemies ,so now I potter around face book,seeing old mates from the 3 Regts I served in also family too.......I have been dismayed at the posting of some of the Scottish ex soldiers who have a hatred of England and the English . I put it down to the crap that the SNP are putting out to get power, I can understand some of the complaints on the Westminster lot ,but to post crap saying that English caused all their problems ,then they get really personal . No I won't repeat the garbage quoted ,but if they keep it up more and more people will turn against the Scottish and god knows what will happen. All I can say to any of the Scots who monitor this site from the old days,please if you have any influence with some of our wayward friends no more silly posts ,what they say in private is their business BUT don't put it all over the internet !!!!!!!!!!!

June 10, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 10, 2015

Bob, I think that overnight some days ago, Slippery Sturgeon  suggested and then operated the putting of "silly season jumgle juice" from some remote and secretive native society in the far reaches of Jungleland into the water for the English, but due to the fact that every other word emanating from said personage is "Scotland" or "Scottish", the great thing so far is that the person or persons who were given the task must have thought that ANY water was too good for us English, and they switched the destination to "Scotland", hence the gibberish appearing on some websites. Listening and therefore understanding instructions is alien to them all,, so they can not blame anyone but themselves. In an aside,  I was much amused at the way that  the American news presenters and questioners gave Sturgeon a grilling when she appeared on US News and Events shows. They seemed to think that she was really a comedienne from an island called Scottishland.... She seemed to be at a loss for words, unusual for such a motormouth. One thing the Yanks are good at is telling the world that they do not fancy the idea of the next British Trident commissioning is under threat from the Scots, so she is definitely NOT flavour of the month for the U.S. of A !!!  Her only claim to fame would probably be that Putin must think she is a great Soviet supporter with her blustering on Trident and nuclear in any form. I hope she has invested in a Bunker one and a half miles underground if she keeps on blustering... but she would not in any event be missed by the rest of the world, so keep on digging Sturgie......

June 12, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 12, 2015

Trust me guys, we don't all hate the English (apart from their national football team) :) Bob is right there is some crap being spouted by former comrades on FB hence why I don't frequent it as often as I would like.  There is no point trying to get into a debate with people of that ilk because their stock answer is to hurl abuse and call you a traitor!!!!! Nationalism in any country is a cancer. Despite the rhetoric the majority of Scots still don't want to leave the Union.  Yes SNP had a landslide victory in the GE but that was more down to a lack of credible opposition rather than to give the SNP a mandate to revive an independance referendum.  If the Scottish Labour party, and the Labour party in the UK as a whole, got their act together then they could easily regain their position in Scotland. Sadly I think the Holyrood election in 2016 will be too soon to see that so SNP will probably sweep the board again.  Wee Nicola's honeymoon period will not last forever there are already serious questions being asked about the SNPs record regarding healthcare and education both fundementals and both fully devolved so they are responsible. They can wave their saltires as much as they want but if they don't focus on doing what they were voted in to do, in both Westminster and Holyrood, then the sensible Scots will show them the door. Please don't tar us all with the same brush. we are still Better Together. Wee Frankie

June 12, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 12, 2015

Frankie, My little rant was tongue in cheek against the people making comments on FB, not the general Scots race, and the Leader was a bit slow in her comments in response to the US talkshow interviewers, she could become a good leader once she looks beyond her own thoughts which are a bit too parochial for a country's head. I hope the forthcoming Waterloo celebrations go extremely well, and the weather is kind to attendees, wherever they visit. I also hope the French admit defeat in their claims that Napoleon was the true victor, not the British and Prussians. I had not realised how many casualties were killed or badly injured until I read one of the military reports on the Battle. I can not attend the celebrations myself, but our Waterloo troops will be in my thoughts over the coming days. They deserve our praise, even after so long.  I hope the union lasts for centuries to come,  after all their previous sacrifices in many theatres of war,  and over such a long period of conflict. Tom

June 12, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 12, 2015

Frankie, - and I forgot to say that the English football team are the biggest bunch of "no chancers" we have had for many years!!  Trouble is that Everton play in blue as do your national team so I cannot support  either of them ...  Tom

June 12, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 12, 2015

Frankie................yes I agree with you once all the euphoria of the GE has been put into history and the SNP have to deliver the goods . As we know with hind site from our experience of politicians in the past, they say almost anything to get votes / power  but in government they fall flat on our faces ,remembering the Lib Dems  college fees ,so the proof will be in the doing. I'm going now to stop going on face book as it just get my back up when you know they're writing/talking shite about the average English person who's only care is to get on with their life as best they can. They don't need slagging by certain parts of this United Kingdom !!!!!!!!!!

June 12, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 12, 2015

Guys, FB is a fantastic method of communication but sadly it does allow some people to spout some serious 'sh1t' much of which they wouldn't dream of saying to someone face to face. There is a fair degree of it that is said just to try and wind up the unwary, or at least I hope there is. As to politicians I doubt they will ever change, promise much deliver very little.  I am hoping to attend the parade in Edinburgh on the 27th and show my appreciation for the lads who are serving on our behalf by marching proudly behind them with former 3DG, GREYS and SCOTS DG no matter their political or nationalist persuasion.  Yours Aye Wee Frankie

June 12, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 12, 2015

I don't use FB other than to keep contact with my family who live in the US but I understand there is a thriving sector of ex SCOTS DG members who use it frequently to vent their spleen. As I said previously on this site; at the last Branch Reunion Dinner I attended some Ex SCOTS DG (Scots) domiciled in England, were telling me how appalled they were at the vitriol and anti English rhetoric of some of their erstwhile Scottish chums who lived north of the border. A couple of names were bandied about and to be honest I was not surprised at hearing who was involved, ashamed and saddened but not surprised. Every Scottish ex member of the Regiment I encountered at the dinner who knew of the way these guys were speaking was appalled ergo it IS fortunately the minority, a vociferous, vitriolic minority but a minority nevertheless. Sadly it only takes a minority of aggressive, bile laden cyber bullies and pratts to sour the whole thing for many people. Witness the Scottish Independence debacle when not a few "NO" voters were intimidated and vilified. I believe the whole SNP halycon thing will run its course within this Parliament. Most Scots are too canny to believe the rhetoric and hyperbole being spouted by Sturgeon and Salmon. Their "me, me, me" Scotland before everyone else, their threats and posturing, the appalling behaviour of many of the newly elected SNP MPs will all have consequences sooner or later. I believe Cameron should allow Sturgeon to control almost all of the budget applicable to Scotland, less defence and security and maybe one or two other issues. He should stop the Barnett Formula in its tracks in doing so. He should not allow Sturgeon to pick and choose what she wants to have and what she wants to leave at Westminster. By doing this we will see if a FAIRLY funded Scotland, ie a Scotland WITHOUT the extra £1660 pa per person they currently receive in preference to the rest of the UK, can maintain its current spending levels that include free uni places, free prescriptions, better home care et al. I believe such an exercise might just change the minds of many pro independence supporters when the reality hits home. But Sturgeon has already declined such a move at present because she knows the probable outcome. The SNP success story is almost wholly based on a protesting Scottish electorate. An electorate rightly and justifiably dismayed at the post referendum farce  created by Westminster. Far too many promises and concessions were made as the Coalition sought to garner support of the floating voters in that referendum. Promises that were never going to be delivered in the time frame the Scots would be appeased by. Promises that were frankly ludicrously naive and unfair to England and the rest of the UK. The West Lothian Question remains unanswered, Cameron is still toadying to Sturgeon when he should be doing what is right, what is fair and what is equitable. Sturgeon knows only her continued bellicose threats and posturing will keep her hardcore, nationalists happy hence her absolutely ridiculous demand that the Scots be allowed to retire earlier on full state pensions than the rest of the UK. I could go on, I won't. I will not fall into the trap of generalising about the Scots and tarring them all with the same brush. Thank goodness there are enough of them who keep a sense of perspective and disown the rabid, nationalistic rantings of some of their countrymen. We should do the same with the minority of ex regimental members who have elected to join the ranks of these people. In my opinion.

June 12, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 12, 2015

Wee Frankie & Dave, I was just about to say all that !! Wasn't really, but totally agree with you both, and well said both of you ! John (JKW)  

June 13, 2015

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What the score with the Scottish

June 13, 2015

On the whole you hit the nail on the head David.....I know it would be nice to have more control over your finances and other services BUT to blame others for your woes reminds me of  Germany of the 30's and I know as David stated there are more sensible people than this annoying minority .


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