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February 12, 2021

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February 12, 2021

Why Home HQ ,well looking at the media reporting on Scotland/SNP and their wanting to leave the UNION and if they ( Scots) vote to go what would happen to Scottish regiments in the BRITISH ARMY,let alone jocks in any of the Armed Services . This year celebrates the 50 anniversary of amalgamation, yes it only seems like last week that we stood on the square in Herford and changed cap badges. So back to the Home HQ or even the current Regiment would the M.O.D ,would it be moved south to England or even be disbanded . Thinking that all service men/ woman have swore allegiance to the Queen ,what will our Scottish service personal do . To think of all those Scottish mates who now have a British Army pension could honestly vote to leave and possibly lose their pension if Scotland couldn’t afford to pay . I remember back in Osnabruck that there were a few of my friends who were SNP supporters but back then we treated them like Man U supporters and let them be . Now it’s a different world since BREXIT and the SNP want to be a happy little country in the EU ,thinking that it will be better off ,mmmm ,looking at the EU now with the COVID cock up and Artical 16 feck up I’m very happy that the United Kingdom’s out of that bag of shite . Anyway what would Westminster do ,move everything military back into England,Wales or Northern Ireland,that’s the QUESTION if SNP have their way ,that DEMOCRACY.

February 12, 2021

Joined: May 12, 2014
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February 12, 2021

You raise some interesting and valid points Bob. I am sure the MOD has given some, perhaps rudimentary, thoughts to this matter albeit they would be reluctant to admit  it given the current political stance is there will be no referendum. I am in no doubt that the minute the Covid crisis is dimmed the poison dwarf will hold ( an unconstitutionally legal) referendum. I am pretty sure she would gain a small minority victory in it as well, as things stand currently. The majority of the Scots think she has handled Covid well. No mention of crashing education standards before Covid, hospital and healthcare generally failing, police services in disarray, highest number of drug deaths in Europe with the lowest number of rehab beds etc etc.   To get back to your points.   Pensions: All pensions accrued at the time of any possible future independence date would remain the responsibility of Whitehall ie the MOD. The contracts twixt service people and the MOD would remain extant in such circumstances.   Allegiance. Hmm not so straightforward forward. Would any independence include the removal of HM as head of state? I guess that is likely were independence to occur because the SNP truly do hate all things English, especially when anything includes holding any power over them. The Army Generally. If independence really did take place I cannot see Brit forces remaining stationed In Scotland. The SNP has already stated in their manifesto they would kick the nuclear subs and supporting infrastructure out of Faslane etc. Any presence of  MOD troops in Scotland post independence ( if it ever happened) would be anathema to the SNP.   Like I said you raise interesting points, let’s hear what others think. D. As an aside, I think any referendum should include England as the second partner in the Union. That way we would stand a much greater chance of relieving ourselves of a rabid, nationalistic, English hating SNP.    

February 13, 2021

Joined: May 5, 2014
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February 13, 2021

The SNP are relying on the North Sea oil to ensure their economic growth - it won't, simply because, as the country ( & the world) turn to electric powered vehicles, the need for oil on such a scale will diminish greatly. This is why the Middle Eastern countries are diversifying so much, realising the "liquid gold" needs will dry up in time. With regards the future of our Armed Forces  - not only the Regiment ( now based in Scotland), but those Jocks in the RAF, the Royal Navy and countless soldiers too, stationed world wide, ALL of whom swore allegiance to the Queen - will they be kicked out if they don't re affirm an alternative oath to "queen" Nicola instead ? It's a pig's ear that Independence would cause, & I do wonder if WNS has truly thought it through. If the Army ( & subs) withdrew from Scotland, where would they get the military aid often needed in times of crisis ? I'm sure the EU wouldn't rush to help - HM The Queen would NEVER agree to remain Head of State to an independent Scotland surely ? If Wee Nicola raised her own army, that would cost a fortune to maintain & neither the UK or the EU would help fund it. Do without & they would have no defence or assistance in civil disorder / crisis events ; Scotland really would be independent of anyone else. I personally believe that Scotland would not survive economically - the whisky trade ain't that good, especially with Japan now producing excellent copies too ! John (JKW).

February 14, 2021

Joined: May 15, 2014
Posts: 59
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February 14, 2021

Must not forget the extra funding money we put into Scotland ,without it they will struggle no work for the shipyards or the submarine depot                 hey ho ..Len.(stay safe every body )

February 15, 2021

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 261
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February 15, 2021

I have read all points with due diligence and would like to point out that Political party LEADERS - read SNP.....etc -  only care about THEIR futures and not the long term future of their country or anyone. (or anything for that matter !) So I do NOT believe that they give any consideration as to whether North Sea Oil runs out or not? As FOR ANYTHING ELSE......??....thoughts ?   Mickey S.   (I notice you are still looking (and "donating") David ! .....how's things with you there days ? )


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