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Illegal Raves !
September 2, 2020

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Illegal Raves !

September 2, 2020

There was one illegal rave at the recent Bank Holiday w/e with about 3000 attending, it was reported. There's no way , without troop involvement, that the police could cope with such numbers. My solution ? Send in aircraft ( the type that deposit gallons of water to douse forest fires), or drones, both equipped with DYE that would stain all those attendees for weeks, enabling the authorities  to identify the offenders in their home surroundings. They couldn't deny being there, could they !?! I know full well the tree hugging brigade would throw their hands up in horror at such tactics, but I believe it would work AND deter future such activities - so DOUSE 'em I say, with purple dye that would take weeks to scrub off ! John (JKW)

September 2, 2020

Joined: May 8, 2014
Posts: 1812
Illegal Raves !

September 2, 2020

What colour dye John ? I know someone has done this very thing to mark crowds/ rioters I think it was the French but I could be wrong . The governments has to stop these raves/ house parties etc as of yesterday over 70% of recorded Covid is now under 45 years old in Ireland let alone in the UK .The numbers I India are breath taking 78000 in one feckin day just unbelievable,and that’s the ones they know about,I suppose that goes for the UK too

September 3, 2020

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 261
Illegal Raves !

September 3, 2020

Hi All. Just been reading the letters about the "Dye idea" John and it sounds good in principal but how would the dye know who was a performer, security person, local just living outside of the perimeter of the fence.....etc. One thing I fully agree on is the Police not been able to cope. Send in the Army - WHAT ?, BOTH OF THEM ha ha ! - we have relied to much on our Military the past what we need is a new "Thinking Government"........ come back David Miliband....all is forgiven...............!!!   ?........   Mickey S  (Big Al). P.S. We could make a film about all of this and use real "Ammo" in the last scene....?

September 3, 2020

Joined: May 12, 2014
Posts: 1384
Illegal Raves !

September 3, 2020

Hong Kong Police fired ‘coloured water’ ( dyed dark blue) at protesters from water cannons during the protests there recently. It isn’t just raves. It’s also marches and protests. Piers Corbyn (Jeremy’s brother) was recently arrested and slapped with a £10k fine for organising a climate protest rally at which 900 people attended. £10k is now the standard fine for organisers of illegal gatherings. Raves, marches, protests numbering in the thousands are almost impossible to police without the consent of the majority of the participants or extremely heavy handed intervention. 3000 drunken, belligerent young men and women enjoying a rave would be difficult enough to control and disperse with a thousand police available to do so. With the small numbers of police actually available at short notice it is almost impossible. Too few police facing too many rioters, rampaging protesters or drunken ravers equates to lots of wounded police, police facing the ignominy of running away to save themselves and/or lawlessness prevailing. Using troops would only ever be sanctioned as an absolute last resort. The number of new Covid cases is rising daily. Increased testing is certainly a contributing factor to this increase but by all accounts the increase is mainly attributable to young people testing positive. This would certainly account for the new case increase not resulting in more hospital admissions or deaths from Covid. In fact hospital admissions and deaths in England are at an all time pandemic low. It appears that many younger folk are no longer concerned about  the virus. Free of co-morbidities, young and healthy, knowledgeable about the minimal ( if any)  effects of the virus on their demography they see any pandemic restrictions as unnecessary for them to conform to. The Government does have to come up with a workable solution to these raves and indeed any illegal gatherings. While the idea of an aerial dye dispersement sounds attractive there are too many constricting factors to such an option in my opinion. But hasn’t Boris got a batch of water cannons he bought when Mayor of London lying unused? Hong Kong did it! Also police forces could be issued with portable dye backpacks! ‘Spray today and on your way. If you’re dyed blue we’re coming for you’! We are not far from a second national lockdown if new case numbers continue to rise. Many areas where raves and other illegal gatherings do not take  place, areas with low new case numbers,  all suffer the risk of a repeat lockdown from those areas that flagrantly defy the Covid laws and restrictions. If enough young folk become infected they will eventually start to infect more and more older and vulnerable folk. Then it’s back to Square 1.

September 3, 2020

Joined: May 5, 2014
Posts: 1286
Illegal Raves !

September 3, 2020

Mickey, performers, security guards etc shouldn't be there !! The raves are ILLEGAL ! With regards the locals, as these raves usually take place on isolated farm land then any of them in the vicinity would be forewarned to stay away, so no problem there. It's either the DYE method, or tear gas 'em all - as I said, these raves are illegal during the pandemic & unless they're stopped, we'll never rid the country of the terrible virus, which is spread by such activities.  Thoughtless, selfish gatherings require drastic action to stop 'em - as you know, I was always soft & gentle when dealing with miscreants lol. John (JKW)

September 4, 2020

Joined: May 14, 2014
Posts: 261
Illegal Raves !

September 4, 2020

Sorry John.....Delete Security insert Steward....Hello David nice to "see" you back, you've been very conspicuous by your absence.


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